tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
They were sent to kill people.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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They were sent to kill people.
teqniq
DisMembered
Very best wishes to you and your son.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Probably not the catering Corp.
When it is premeditated and when you are following orders to kill it is clearly premeditated.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Like I'm sure every other poster here does I hope he gets well as soon as possible and returns to his family.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
That's kind of what the SAS is for tbh, it would be nice if we lived in a world where this wasn't necessary and they didn't exist but alas we don't.
As for sending British troops to fight in Ukraine, at this point i'm against it.
Whilst I'm definitely Team Ukraine and have been all along, I think this is probably a bit of an escalation at this moment in time.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We do live in a world in which they're not necessary. Unless you think things like their Afghanistan exploits, killing the unarmed and noncombatants, are vital to modern warfare
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Not as rare as it is for members of the British military to kill people in circumstances that would satisfy any sensible definition of murder.
Most certainly. Unless of course they actually were murdering them.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not that rare if the exploits of the special air service in afghanistan are to be believed.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
My memory may be off here but didn’t one of the SAS Iranian embassy squad almost executed an unarmed terrorist they had captured on live TV in the middle of London before they were stopped
So it’s not hard to imagine they would do the same overseas with no cameras rolling
So it’s not hard to imagine they would do the same overseas with no cameras rolling
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you missed this i think Solider jailed for attempted murder over Reading Walkabout stabbing, how fortunate the victim was not to die
and this one Soldier jailed for life for the brutal murder of his girlfriend where the victim was not so lucky. 20 seconds on google, sure there's many more out there
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Starry Wisdom
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
The SAS in Afghanistan rounded up young men and shot them in cold blood to boost their kill rate. How was that necessary?
BBC report on unlawful SAS killings 'broadly accurate', MoD concluded
Officials wrote a letter saying a Panorama report on alleged war crimes in Afghanistan was accurate, despite public denials.
www.google.com
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No. I meant what I said.
We have the usual suspects spouting the usual bollocks and presenting rare occurrences as usual ones. I'm a bit busy at the moment but will come back a bit later for a proper row, but it's the same types of peanuts who argued that the idiot gangster that the police quite correctly shot in Brixton, was murdered; using very similarly flawed (non) logic.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Best wishes, hope things are okay.
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Starry Wisdom
do you think killing lots of people who pose no threat during a counterinsurgency war is a good way of doing things? before you answer, what you're trying to do in a counterinsurgency conflict is not to create more insurgents.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
don't think we really need a row about it
the legacy act was not brought in for nothing
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
If the goal is to boost your kill rate; absolutely.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
perhaps because this is the ukraine war thread and not the crimes of the british army thread?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
boosting your kill rate at the expense of the strategic goal. top stuff there, spy.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Tim didn't mention any strategic goals.
He said they wanted to boost their kill rate; presumably for individual or inter unit/regimental competition purposes.
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Starry Wisdom
the conversation isn't defined by tim's posts
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
My reply was.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
It really comes down to if you think British troops should be there or not.
If you do, then for the most part you will feel there actions are justified, although there will be cases were some act outside of their orders, on the whole you will feel they are justified.
If you don't think they should be then you will see their actions as murder in the moral if not the legal sense. I don't like pinning the title of murderer on the average soldier following orders though. While we do make individual moral choices the real culpability lies higher up the chain and oftern more with politicians anyway.
If you do, then for the most part you will feel there actions are justified, although there will be cases were some act outside of their orders, on the whole you will feel they are justified.
If you don't think they should be then you will see their actions as murder in the moral if not the legal sense. I don't like pinning the title of murderer on the average soldier following orders though. While we do make individual moral choices the real culpability lies higher up the chain and oftern more with politicians anyway.
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