Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Many reports of Russian soldiers looting their own people's homes on their way out, so anyone who didn't flee is going to need some help this winter if they hang onto it.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
- Thread starter kebabking
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ska invita
back on the other side
the suggestion is that its being claimed for use as a bargaining chip in a future peace deal so there'll be no need to get that settled in. can well imagine the people that live there will become refugees before long
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
More victims of Putin.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Russia has been evacuating towns in the area, in fact some are being relocated to occupied Ukrainian land as they seek to change the population of these areas. I’m not sure if many stayed behind.
Some of the Russian land up this way was once part of Ukraine (Belgorod was, not sure about Kursk area) so their claim to the land is probably as valid as Russia’s claim to Crimea etc.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
German prosecutors have issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian man over the 2022 sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipelines, AFP reported citing German media.
A European arrest warrant was requested in June for the man, named only as Volodymyr Z., whose last known address is in Poland, and who is now believed to have taken flight.
German investigators believe the man was one of the divers who planted explosive devices on the Nord Stream pipelines.
A European arrest warrant was requested in June for the man, named only as Volodymyr Z., whose last known address is in Poland, and who is now believed to have taken flight.
German investigators believe the man was one of the divers who planted explosive devices on the Nord Stream pipelines.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
TopCat
Putin fanboy
What do you think about the issue? After the silly denials?I bet that’s made your day!
ska invita
back on the other side
The question here will be will Germany use this diver as a one bad apple scapegoat and draw a line under the affair or will they trace it back to the USA
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'll answer that when you answer what you think about Russians raping and murdering civilians and kidnapping children. After the silly denials.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
They appear to be carrying out investigations. I doubt they like much the implications of Ukrainians being responsible. Bounced into a war.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Your act is pretty thread bare these days.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He'd change his tune in an instant if I agreed with him
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yours is just plain disgusting.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You are hardly contributing to the thread with your stream of projection and insults.
If you have no comment nor analysis well why not just fuck off?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Neither are you with your comment free newsclip postings and cheerleading a for a right-wing regime that condones rape and murder.
If you can't respond to claims that you are supportive of this behaviour, why not just fuck off?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I won't do the same.
I'll keep calling out your cheerleading for Vlad and The Rapists, in the full knowledge that you'll be clicking on "view ignored content" every now and then, like you just did, only now you won't be able to respond because it'll show you've lied about the ignore, so you'll just have to seethe away in silence!
I think that he genuinely thinks that he isn’t cheerleading for Putin. It’s because he sees all the richness and complexity of geopolitics, power and cultural encounters simply as a one-dimensional question of “US hegemonic empire vs everyone else”. Everything has to be squeezed into that framework, even when it really doesn’t fit. The result is cheering against whatever the US wants, regardless of what that is.I won't do the same.
I'll keep calling out your cheerleading for Vlad and The Rapists, in the full knowledge that you'll be clicking on "view ignored content" every now and then, like you just did, only now you won't be able to respond because it'll show you've lied about the ignore, so you'll just have to seethe away in silence!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
ska invita
back on the other side
Of course people still live there... 1000sq km ....Not for long though
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
They’ve been demanding footage of the harbour in Poland where he was believed to have set out from, the Polish refused to provide this then claimed there was no footage available. Make of that what you will.
ska invita
back on the other side
That's what I make of it
Former Polish Foreign Minister thanks US for damaging Nord Stream pipeline
- Politician suggests US was behind attack on gas pipeline - Anadolu Agency
www.aa.com.tr
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
No one in CEE trusts the Germans on Nordstream any further than they could throw them.
NS has been a serious bone of contention between Germany and, err.. everyone else for 20 years and more. If Poland had a sniff that it might go bang they certainly wouldn't have warned Germany in advance.
No one who's paid the slightest bit of attention to CEE in the last decade and more would think that Poland, or any of the other eastern states, would shed a single tear for Nordstream falling under a bus.
If it was Ukraine, or some Ukrainians with an eye for extra-governmental foreign policy, then there might be some eyebrows raised, possibly even some huffing about method, but the actual fact of it? Nah - and German huffing would be met with sarcastic questions about Germany's willingness to sell it's 'friends' down the river for the last decade and more....
ska invita
back on the other side
meanwhile on the front line:
\"Kyiv’s incursion has been good for morale at home.....But it has also obscured the difficulties Ukraine is facing in the central section of Donbas oblast, where Russian forces have gained a mile a week in a remorseless advance since 1 July.
The target is Pokrovsk, a strategic road and rail junction that was long considered so far behind the lines that journalists and humanitarian organisations used it as a base. Now it is coming towards the frontline, about nine miles (15km) away, and there are fears that as the Russian guns close in it will suffer the destructive intensity of bombing faced by Bakhmut and Sieverodonestk.
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Ukraine is making gains in Russia faster than it is losing ground in Donetsk, but Pokrovsk’s transport connections make it more strategic. There is no great military significance in the Russian territory Ukraine has so far captured, so the calculus is more finely balanced."
...more here...
\"Kyiv’s incursion has been good for morale at home.....But it has also obscured the difficulties Ukraine is facing in the central section of Donbas oblast, where Russian forces have gained a mile a week in a remorseless advance since 1 July.
The target is Pokrovsk, a strategic road and rail junction that was long considered so far behind the lines that journalists and humanitarian organisations used it as a base. Now it is coming towards the frontline, about nine miles (15km) away, and there are fears that as the Russian guns close in it will suffer the destructive intensity of bombing faced by Bakhmut and Sieverodonestk.
...
Ukraine is making gains in Russia faster than it is losing ground in Donetsk, but Pokrovsk’s transport connections make it more strategic. There is no great military significance in the Russian territory Ukraine has so far captured, so the calculus is more finely balanced."
...more here...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
This Washington Post article is a good read for both fans of the CIA or 'US hegemonic empire vs everyone else'
editor
hiraethified
What's your thoughts on the matter, given that Russia will no doubt blow up schools, hospitals and homes and kill countless civilians, as usual?
Do you think more efforts should be made by the west to protect people from this illegal invasion, run by war criminals?
ska invita
back on the other side
Do you really not know what I think? I've said the same thing repeatedly for years now. Its like when we repeatedly have to have the same conversation about how "you cant trust Putin in a peace deal", over and over again, and I have to repeat its got nothing to do with trust and everything to do with a miltarised agreement.
I think the war should've stopped a long time ago, as did the head of the US army.
I think Ukraine is losing, as does the head of the Ukraine army.
I think the longer it goes on the bigger the disaster for everyone, and the bigger the chance of it bringing other states into a wider war.
I think the US (and therefore the UK) is quite happy to keep it rumbling on for their own strategic interests. I think Biden is a war criminal - what he has done in Palestine should leave no one in any doubt.
I think there should be a concerted attempt to create a united nations backed peace plan <the nature of which I've spelled out repeatedly.
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