UK reaction / response to the invasion

[Pickman's model]

They should be able to freeze his assets in the UK, AFAIK he's put Chelsea up for sale, friends of Putin should not be able to make off with the loot.

I suppose one person's "stringent laws to enable the swift seizure of foreigners' assets" is another person's "authoritarian over-reaching government". Perhaps the UK government's power's have been insufficient in this regard, or perhaps not.

Are any other European countries managing to effect the swift seizure of mansions belonging to Russians with no easy paper trail connecting them to Putin?

The aim of this exercise is not to punish russian oligarchs but to allow them to extricate their money in light of their tender favours to the Tory party over the years

 

[ska invita]

I think that if Ukraine had a strong military, and the sanctions had been clearly spelt out, and the political shift within Europe - German rearmament, Sweden and Finland seriously thinking about NATO membership - in the event of an invasion had been clearly spelt out, all 6 months ago, then it's quite possible that Putin/the people around him would have decided that the game wasn't worth the candle.

Just how big a military build up by the west into Ukraine do you think wouldve put Putin off?
The scale required would so clearly be seen as a provocation I'm really surprised to see you make it, and others agreeing.

Well I guess from your point of view that wish will now become a reality, and this will supposedly make the world a safer place. For me it feels like the opposite is true.

 

[Pickman's model]

Trouble is even if half putins nukes don't work they need constant maintenance and specialist skills.

trouble is even if half putin's nukes don't work, half do

 

[kebabking]

ust how big a military build up by the west into Ukraine do you think wouldve put Putin off?
The scale required would so clearly be seen as a provocation I'm really surprised to see you make it, and others agreeing.

Well I guess from your point of view that wish will now become a reality, and this will supposedly make the world a safer place. For me it feels like the opposite is true.

And the sanctions, the political/military alignment?

 

[ska invita]

And the sanctions, the political/military alignment?

well im partiucalry interested in the military aspect here, especially as that is a live issue right now still. whatever else happens that one issue would trump all other concerns.

but also not sure what you even meant. "the sanctions had been clearly spelt out - in the event of an invasion - 6 months ago" - so are you saying six months ago NATO shouldve armed Urkaine to the teeth set out what massive sanctions would happen if Putin invaded and also made it clear Sweden and Finland should join NATO asaps - and that would avoid a war ?
It seems so ridiculous to me that Im baffled by it

 

[LDC]

well im partiucalry interested in the military aspect here, especially as that is a live issue right now still. whatever else happens that one issue would trump all other concerns.

but also not sure what you even meant. "the sanctions had been clearly spelt out - in the event of an invasion - 6 months ago" - so are you saying six months ago NATO shouldve armed Urkaine to the teeth set out what massive sanctions would happen if Putin invaded and also made it clear Sweden and Finland should join NATO asaps - and that would avoid a war ?
It seems so ridiculous to me that Im baffled by it

But given what was done obviously didn't work, and Putin was clearly wanting to invade, what do you think might have put him off?

 

[ska invita]

PROGRAM " EURO-RUSSIAN PEACE"

10 DONT CRITICISE NATO
20 NATO ARM ALL EAST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO THE TEETH
30 GOTO 10

RUN

 

[twistedAM]

No word so far from Pen Farthing about the abandoned pets.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Immediate sanctions! Except... Not.

 

[Badgers]

Probably fake news

 

[platinumsage]

Well let's see what happens next week

 

[Serge Forward]

So, Russian capitalist friends, you've go till Tuesday to shift everything to the Caymans

 

[tim]

So, Russian capitalist friends, you've go till Tuesday to shift everything to the Caymans

Hurrah, for British Overseas Territories!

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

So, Russian capitalist friends, you've go till Tuesday to shift everything to the Caymans

I say old chap. Why not the British Virgin Islands where my good friend Geoffrey will probably do his level best to help you out.

 

[teqniq]

This is shameful:

 

[Raheem]

trouble is even if half putin's nukes don't work, half do

It's about knowing where to stand.

 

[existentialist]

This is shameful:

We are such a bunch of unprincipled cunts.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is shameful:

you'd have also thought they'd put in a shorter url than some really shit long one like that too, perhaps www.gov.uk/guidance/ukraine_crisis (this is not a real webpage)

 

[existentialist]

you'd have also thought they'd put in a shorter url than some really shit long one like that too

Whatever for? That would only have made it easier for people to access the service

 

[teqniq]

you'd have also thought they'd put in a shorter url than some really shit long one like that too

Yeah someone said something similar in the comments

 

[DaveCinzano]

you'd have also thought they'd put in an even longer url to deliberately make it even harder

FTFY

 

[Pickman's model]

FTFY

even for a government our government is crap

 

[DaveCinzano]

even for a government our government is crap

But if it was efficiently crap or shitty or evil, at least it would in some way demonstrate a kind of excellence; but its crapness is so banally half-arsed, so piecemeal piss-poor, it's embarrassing

 

[teqniq]

What an absolute scumbag, who may also well be a security risk himself:

 

[existentialist]

What an absolute scumbag, who may also well be a security risk himself:

What a piece of shit.

 

[strung out]

Roman Abramovich has been sanctioned. Chelsea are fucked (for now)



Full story: Ukraine war: Roman Abramovich sanctioned by UK

 

[ska invita]

Roman Abramovich has been sanctioned. Chelsea are fucked (for now)



Full story: Ukraine war: Roman Abramovich sanctioned by UK

no one likes them, but i expect they care

 

[NoXion]

What an absolute scumbag, who may also well be a security risk himself:

Send him to his paymasters in Moscow. He's monster and a traitor.

 

[Yossarian]

What an absolute scumbag, who may also well be a security risk himself:

A year from now people will be saying the news that he served Russian caviar and vodka to oligarchs at a No. 10 event immediately afterward must surely be the last straw.

 

[Serge Forward]

no one likes them, but i expect they care

You may have just offended any Millwall fans one here with that quip.