brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I think that fans of the 'invisible hand' like Kwarteng will soon be pulling on the 'glove' on intervention when the food riots loom.Isn't capitalism great
UK Gas and Electricity Crisis Looming
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two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Yes indeed, so do Shell and BP
Renewables | Energy economics | Home
In the Energy Outlook, renewable energy in power grows quickly, driven by wind and solar power
Ecotricity electrical generation is 100% wind and solar renewables from a small supplier. I'm not judging people for which supplier they use, I just like the idea of 100% wind and solar renewables.
Is that before you've woven your muesli or to keep your middle class bum warm while you're actually weaving?
not-bono-ever
meh
We are at the end of the supply chain these days. We are not going to get any matey matey help from continental Europe any more. We don’t have any storage capacity left because capitalism. This is life on market forces pirate monkey island.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
This is nothing new. A CO2 shortage affecting the food supply chain happened in 2018:
Supermarkets are rationing frozen food as CO2 crisis left them short of dry ice
The shortage has already hit Ocado and insiders warn it will affect other supermarkets soon too.
metro.co.uk
No doubt the government put measures in place at the time to ensure wouldn't be a problem in the future.
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Like everything they doNo doubt the government put measures at the time to ensure it isn't a problem in the future.
On time
Within budget
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Was that the year I couldn't get a pint on tap at some places because they had no gas? All that time to sort it out since. Useless.
not-bono-ever
meh
Yeh but the market
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
According to him and others in the Cabinet in their book, the only problem with the UK economy is British workers are lazier than anyone else in the word so no need...
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
Energy crisis: How long will it last and what happens if your supplier goes bust?
Wholesale prices for gas have surged 250% since January - what does this mean for suppliers and consumers?
Yeah I'm massively reassured by that. Thanks mate.
bimble
floofy
just surprised he didn't add that we have the best gas in the world, like he does whenever he's asked about food supply stuff.Energy crisis: How long will it last and what happens if your supplier goes bust?
Wholesale prices for gas have surged 250% since January - what does this mean for suppliers and consumers?news.sky.com
Yeah I'm massively reassured by that. Thanks mate.
not-bono-ever
meh
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That’s the stupidest line I’ve ever heard. So we’ve not to worry, right?
My supplier is/was Peoples Energy. I knew something was wrong when they phoned me to reorganise the payments. They wanted a lump payment up front “to even out the winter payments”. A few days later they were bust. Although I heard from the media before I heard from them. Now I have no idea who my new supplier will be, when the switch will take place, and therefore when I’ll be able to swap. Coming into winter.
Anyone on a small income (like us) is bound to be worried. On top of all the other worries. And a pandemic. And a climate crisis. But, don’t worry, the economy is coming back to life. That’s why prices are shooting up and businesses are failing.
My supplier is/was Peoples Energy. I knew something was wrong when they phoned me to reorganise the payments. They wanted a lump payment up front “to even out the winter payments”. A few days later they were bust. Although I heard from the media before I heard from them. Now I have no idea who my new supplier will be, when the switch will take place, and therefore when I’ll be able to swap. Coming into winter.
Anyone on a small income (like us) is bound to be worried. On top of all the other worries. And a pandemic. And a climate crisis. But, don’t worry, the economy is coming back to life. That’s why prices are shooting up and businesses are failing.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Like many of those who’ve enjoyed the best education that money can buy Johnson is dangerously stupid and if he genuinely think that this is a market correction then he’s a moron too.
Labour should be seeking an emergency debate about this and seeking to extract commitments from the Tories in respect of guaranteed energy supply for the elderly and those on low income. The fertiliser plants should be taken into public ownership as should the smaller energy companies about to go out of business. Given the winter flu and inevitable rise of covid cases guaranteed supply and control of prices is essential and the only way to guarantee that happens is nationalisation. Have labour actually said anything on this yet?
Labour should be seeking an emergency debate about this and seeking to extract commitments from the Tories in respect of guaranteed energy supply for the elderly and those on low income. The fertiliser plants should be taken into public ownership as should the smaller energy companies about to go out of business. Given the winter flu and inevitable rise of covid cases guaranteed supply and control of prices is essential and the only way to guarantee that happens is nationalisation. Have labour actually said anything on this yet?
bimble
floofy
Quite interesting, old info on two particular government decisions that have helped make sure the current situation is as bad as it is.
www.theguardian.com
Closure of UK’s largest gas storage site ‘could mean volatile prices’
Shuttering of Rough facility off Yorkshire coast by British Gas owner Centrica will increase dependence on imports, say critics
not-bono-ever
meh
Maybe I’m a bit thick , but being sovereign and shit has stuff energy security in it?
bimble
floofy
elbows
Well-Known Member
At some point the energy issues will make the pandemic look like a picnic by comparison. Actually predicting when that will be is not easy though. The knock on consequences will be immense and at some point the unsustainable stuff will no longer be sustained and then the magnitude of what we face this century will become more obvious.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Even if they get away with it this time, the ultimate consequence is that the free market bullshit will be shown to be bullshit.
This wont surprise anyone who is familiar with 'privatise the profits and nationalise the losses'. It was just a con to siphon off profit during the good times and has a much diminished role once the good times are clearly over for good.
not-bono-ever
meh
From the bbc : minister energy statement
“
First, the government will not bail out failing companies, he says. There must be “no rewards for failure or mismanagement”.
Second, customers must be protected from price rises.
And, third, the energy market as a whole should not suffer because of poor practices by a minority of companies. He says competition must continue. He does not want to return to the oligopoly of the past.”
So basically capitalism and the free market isn’t working is it ?
Duplicitous Imbeciles
“
First, the government will not bail out failing companies, he says. There must be “no rewards for failure or mismanagement”.
Second, customers must be protected from price rises.
And, third, the energy market as a whole should not suffer because of poor practices by a minority of companies. He says competition must continue. He does not want to return to the oligopoly of the past.”
So basically capitalism and the free market isn’t working is it ?
Duplicitous Imbeciles
Just wait till climate change and the associated water wars start
Like the banks?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
That’s the stupidest line I’ve ever heard. So we’ve not to worry, right?
My supplier is/was Peoples Energy. I knew something was wrong when they phoned me to reorganise the payments. They wanted a lump payment up front “to even out the winter payments”. A few days later they were bust. Although I heard from the media before I heard from them. Now I have no idea who my new supplier will be, when the switch will take place, and therefore when I’ll be able to swap. Coming into winter.
Anyone on a small income (like us) is bound to be worried. On top of all the other worries. And a pandemic. And a climate crisis. But, don’t worry, the economy is coming back to life. That’s why prices are shooting up and businesses are failing.
Same here, just got this from Look After My Bills.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Pots and kettles eh. The Cunt Johnson and Co seem to get endlessly rewarded for their monumental fuck ups.
It really is time we found a few lamp posts for these twats.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Yes indeed, so do Shell and BP
Renewables | Energy economics | Home
In the Energy Outlook, renewable energy in power grows quickly, driven by wind and solar powerwww.bp.com
Ecotricity electrical generation is 100% wind and solar renewables from a small supplier. I'm not judging people for which supplier they use, I just like the idea of 100% wind and solar renewables.
This is a bit silly because if all the suppliers were 100% wind and solar now we'd be fucked, as it's not currently windy or sunny.
But if you want to pay more than the price cap (green tarrifs are exempt) to line the pockets of Dale Vince, the bloke who founded it and maintains a controlling stake, be my guest.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
They're nowhere near 100% wind and solar though are they? Which makes your point silly. We need to develop a range of renewables with fossil fuels as fill-ins (gas is easiest to switch in instantaneously if the prices ever come down). And it's sunny here
And if people want to pay into the pockets of whoever the CEOs of their own energy company, be my guest too. We're paying into the pockets of business owners across the boards.
It's easy for you to say all this now from your warm middle class Volvo. We had it tough. We never had engines you could switch on with our phones from anywhere in the world. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Luxury.
ska invita
back on the other side
I've got a gas hob and a gas boiler.
I wonder if I should buy an electric plate hob and an electric blow heater while they're still in stock?
I wonder if I should buy an electric plate hob and an electric blow heater while they're still in stock?
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