UK captains of industry have charity night where they sexually assault young female 'hostesses'

[agricola]

I think its unlikely that this is their reason (fear of some future grid-girl related scandal) . Seems more likely to me that they just think they'll make more money by creating an environment where women are more likely to be paying customers / participants.

Are women being put off attending F1 (or the darts) because of the presence of other women at those events who could be said to be objectified, though? I'd have thought they were more likely to get more people through the door if they either reduced the astronomical cost of tickets (in F1's case) or decreased the very high level of tedium involved in the sports.

 

[bemused]

No, I didn't. Read post #1077 then come back and make amends for these numptastic entries of yours.

 

[agricola]

yeh it's being done because of how men view these women, not because of the women

well exactly - "I know we've used you to advertise various brands before girls, but would you mind one last gig of advertising how feminist we are? There is no pay."

 

[bimble]

Are women being put off attending F1 (or the darts) because of the presence of other women at those events who could be said to be objectified, though? I'd have thought they were more likely to get more people through the door if they either reduced the astronomical cost of tickets (in F1's case) or decreased the very high level of tedium involved in the sports.

Can't imagine personally wanting to attend either of these things but, you know, I think half the point of having the hotpant girls is to signal that this is a men's event for manly men who like menthings, so yes it might be a pragmatic business decision to stop doing that and open up the market to the other 50% of people that exist.

 

[bemused]

Can't imagine personally wanting to attend either of these things but, you know, I think half the point of having the hotpant girls is to signal that this is a men's event for manly men who like menthings, so yes it might be a pragmatic business decision to stop doing that and open up the market to the other 50% of people that exist.

I think if you wanted to waste a day watching people zoom around a field the tightness of some of the models pants wouldn't be something that put you off. They are obviously pre-empting a perceived problem they may face because darts decided to do it first. I love how it was darts that did this first, who would have thunk it.

 

[Spymaster]

I think half the point of having the hotpant girls is to signal that this is a men's event for manly men who like menthings, so yes it might be a pragmatic business decision to stop doing that and open up the market to the other 50% of people that exist.

Nah. F1 doesn't need new viewers, male or female. It's run primarily by billionaire dinosaurs and the girls are just a relic from the 60s and 70s that nobody has given much thought to until now. Someone's just woken up, is all.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nah. F1 doesn't need new viewers, male or female. It's run primarily by billionaire dinosaurs and the girls are just a relic from the 60s and 70s that nobody has given much thought to until now. Someone's just woken up, is all.

Above the thunders of the lower floors,
Far, far above on the abysmal board,
His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep
The CEO sleepeth: faintest sunlights flee
About his shadowy sides; above him swell
Huge sponges of millennial growth and height;
And far away into the sickly light,
From many a wondrous grot and secret cell
Unnumbered and enormous polypi
Winnow with giant arms the slumbering green.
There hath he lain for ages, and will lie
Battening upon huge big macs in his snoring,
Until the latter fire shall heat the boardroom;
Then once by man and angels to be seen,
In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die.

 

[mojo pixy]

Very good. Now try post #1077, like I said.

 

[bemused]

I worry a little that, if we are not careful, we will stop people doing as they wish with their bodies.

I think you've got the point here where women can do what they want with their bodies unless it's being paid for men to look at them in an innocuous setting, like a car show, sporting event etc.

If society chooses to wipe out the promotional model industry because they don't the idea of women being paid to have men lear at them it's fair enough - I'll go with the flow.

However, compared to the damage the beauty and fashion industry are doing to women by not only exploiting them physically but then digitally manipulating their image to create unobtainable standards it doesn't even compare. I've got teenage kids and the pressure this vampire industry puts on them is shameful - if they were only half as self-aware as professional darts it would progress. But I just think they don't give a fuck.

 

[bemused]

Very good. Now try post #1077, like I said.

You said sorry for it, well done.

 

[bimble]

it is a tragedy. What will they do now they can't do this glamorous job anymore.

 

[mojo pixy]

You said sorry for it, well done.

What the fuck is wrong with you? I didn't say sorry, I explained what it actually meant when someone not shitposting queried it.

 

[mojo pixy]

it is a tragedy. What will they do now they can't do this glamorous job anymore.
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((((women who want and need well-paid work))))

 

[Almor]

My two p worth.

My burlesque dancer/stripper cousin loved her job. She thought it was great to dance in front of men and be ogled. It was what she wanted, it was what she enjoyed.

My model/grid girl friend loved it for the attention she got. She enjoyed being half naked in photo shoots for soft erotica.

Neither enjoyed being groped by strangers, and, being strong women, dealt with unwanted touching etc. quickly and with no nonsense.

Much further up the thread I said that women have the right to respect, regardless of how they are dressed, and regardless of their job.

I worry a little that, if we are not careful, we will stop people doing as they wish with their bodies. Isn't part of the premise of feminism that a woman has the right to do as she wishes? Isn't it right, therefore, that if a woman chooses, and I understand that not everyone has the free choice, she should be allowed to dress and do as she wishes? Shouldn't we, as a society, be focusing on making sure that we give women due respect for their choices, rather than expecting them to conform to an image we are imposing on them? Even if we consider it for "the greater good." Any man, or woman, has the right to choose for themselves, and is due respect, surely? And if that means they choose to be grid girls, hostesses, or strippers, and they do so in proper knowledge of what that means, shouldn't we let them?

Have women in bikinis been banned from f1 events or women in evening dresses been banned from darts matches?
I thought the organisers of these events had just decided to stop paying them to be there?

 

[bemused]

What the fuck is wrong with you? I didn't say sorry, I explained what it actually meant when someone not shitposting queried it.

I've posted what you said in the context of that conversation which is this:

If you wanted to make a more nuanced point maybe you should have picked a better analogy before choosing this one?

Just a thought.

 

[bemused]

it is a tragedy. What will they do now they can't do this glamorous job anymore.
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Sorry, why is it okay to ridicule how they choose to make a living?

 

[Pickman's model]

i can't help thinking that countdown is lagging behind the zeitgeist

 

[Pickman's model]

Sorry, why is it okay to ridicule how they choose to make a living?

sorry? for what are you sorry?

 

[mojo pixy]

If you wanted to make a more nuanced point maybe you should have picked a better analogy before choosing this one?

Just a thought.

If you wanted to pick someone up on a point, maybe you should have bothered to read what they themselves wrote about that point before plonking a great clumsy foot in your metaphorical mouth by misinterpreting something already explained?
Just a thought.

 

[bemused]

sorry? for what are you sorry?

It's people like you that make my writing better - you're urban's Zinsser.

 

[Teaboy]

Up until about 10 years ago my company used to hand out free calendars which were basically page 3 style. We work in construction these were given to sites and they were used in site cabins etc. We then made the switch the wildlife scenes and animals etc.

Now I realise we were outright sacking the girls and banning them from calendars. We were denying them rights all for the sake of our pathetic attempt at reputation protection. What terrible people we are and the worst of corporate misogynist behaviour. When I think now of the lives we must have destroyed by doing away with titty calendars. Quite frankly, I doubt I'll ever sleep again.

 

[Pickman's model]

Up until about 10 years ago my company used to hand out free calendars which were basically page 3 style. We work in construction these were given to sites and they were used in site cabins etc. We then made the switch the wildlife scenes and animals etc.

Now I realise we were outright sacking the girls and banning them from calendars. We were denying them rights all for the sake of our pathetic attempt at reputation protection. What terrible people we are and the worst of corporate misogynist behaviour. When I think now of the lives we must have destroyed by doing away with titty calendars. Quite frankly, I doubt I'll ever sleep again.

tbh you'd have to do more than that to up your rep, stopping building bloody awful buildings might be a better way for reputation protection.

 

[bimble]

Interesting.
The boss of darts is blaming TV's editorial PC gawn mad policies, saying its their decision not his.

“I have no personal problems whatsoever with walk-on girls at darts. They’ve been there since the beginning, the girls are great, they get paid, it’s a job for them, and I haven’t got a problem. But I’ve got one big problem, the age we live in. I’ve got BBC, ITV and Sky saying to me this is not part of their editorial policy anymore.
They don’t want to show the walk-on girls on television. If you can tell me what I can do about it, I’ll do it."

Hearn Backs Walk-on Girls - If TV Bosses Give Green Light | Red Dragon Darts Info

 

[Fozzie Bear]

"I have no problem employing women as eye candy" says man.

 

[agricola]

"I have no problem employing women as eye candy" says man.

"I have a problem with me employing women as eye candy", says man, "so I don't employ them any more"

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Maybe that's a good point to start talking about men's choices here?

Men - if you were offered a job which included employing women as eye candy, would you take it?

I wouldn't (unless for completely ridiculous reasons I had to for mere survival, which sounds like the plot of a particularly bad Russ Meyer film).

I am very boring though.

 

[butchersapron]

"I have a problem with me employing women as eye candy", says man, "so I don't employ them any more"

But it's not my doing.

 

[Sasaferrato]

It might do some years and not others as it's an entry requirement to be in the top 2% of iqs. This will clearly vary over time. I don't know if they chuck out people who were in the top 2% but fall out of it. But I do recall regularly beating a mensa team in a pub quiz. They didn't like it when I pointed out you can have an IQ of 160 but if you don't know the answers you won't win

I did and passed the Mensa test, but balked at the membership fee. This was over 30 years ago.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Perhaps you’d like to take your clothes off for a living. If it’s good enough for us women it’s good enough for you.

Certainly. If you pay me, I will take my clothes off for you. Not a problem.

Be careful what you wish for though, you just might get it.

 

[Sasaferrato]

People will pay me not to. It is a win win

I suspect that I'm in the same class. I'm waiting for an offer from purenarcotic though. On a scale of say Schwarzenegger being £1000.00, I'm about a tenner.