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How can they fail?

Nigel finally found a tie to match his teeth.
 
I don't know, or care too much. Stopped caring tbh. Adopted the stance that if a bunch of wankers want something, then the opposite must be better for most of us. Has worked wonderfully for quite some time now...
It's a good strategy I've used myself in the past but it seems a bunch of wankers support opposing sides in this and I can't work out which side pips the other to the post of biggest bunch of wankers in the big bunch of wankers presented to me.
 
I am not looking forward to the campaigning before the referendum, there are going to be very strange bedfellows in both the out and in campaigns. And arguments using all sorts of different reasoning arguing for the same outcome. It is going to be a mess!

So agree. So far all I am hearing is that the Tory big hitters, Osborne excepted want out, whilst Camerons biggest allie appears so far to be Hilary Benn. I have a feeling that Corbyn wants out. Then of course theres Boris, who will want whats right for him, who many will see as a major influence :facepalm:

Put yourself in the position of non British Europeans. This jumped up little Brit comes to the majority and says I don't like your rules, it's Ok for all of you to abide by them and I want my own rules. Lets not forget that we did not join the Euro and are out of Schengen. As a European, what would you be thinking/wanting? Oh the arrogance. If they want their own rules, let them have their own rules, let them out of Europe. Just thinking out loud.

The only good thing which may come out of it is Cameron could end up going sooner rather than later, BUT, beware the devil you know. Come on, just get the whole thing over with.
 
So agree. So far all I am hearing is that the Tory big hitters, Osborne excepted want out, whilst Camerons biggest allie appears so far to be Hilary Benn. I have a feeling that Corbyn wants out. Then of course theres Boris, who will want whats right for him, who many will see as a major influence :facepalm:
Corbyn has signed the Labour party up for STAY, at least half of the cabinet are backing Cameron (I suspect it may be more in the end), there are only four confirmed cabinet Leave's so far.

Put yourself in the position of non British Europeans. This jumped up little Brit comes to the majority and says I don't like your rules, it's Ok for all of you to abide by them and I want my own rules. Lets not forget that we did not join the Euro and are out of Schengen. As a European, what would you be thinking/wanting? Oh the arrogance. If they want their own rules, let them have their own rules, let them out of Europe. Just thinking out loud.
Oh fuck off. It's one thing to vote STAY on the basis that you think that will rein in the Tories, but don't defend the fucking EU and the cunts in Brussels whose policies have directly led to deaths in Greece. As if those vermin at this meeting represent Europe. FFS.
 
It's a good strategy I've used myself in the past but it seems a bunch of wankers support opposing sides in this and I can't work out which side pips the other to the post of biggest bunch of wankers in the big bunch of wankers presented to me.
Exactly. My usual strategy for deciding big national issues will be made quite tricky this time because I can't decide which bunch of wankers I dislike most. :hmm:



PS - my iPad keeps trying to autocorrect the word wankers to "walkers" :D
 
Put yourself in the position of non British Europeans. This jumped up little Brit comes to the majority and says I don't like your rules, it's Ok for all of you to abide by them and I want my own rules. Lets not forget that we did not join the Euro and are out of Schengen. As a European, what would you be thinking/wanting? Oh the arrogance. If they want their own rules, let them have their own rules, let them out of Europe. Just thinking out loud.

Which Europeans do you mean? These are the rules of the European Union, they are not the rules of the average European. Or do you mean senior EU bureaucrats and other European leaders? Because despite what many smug liberals seem to believe they are not prepared to just sit there and let silly uncouth jumped up Britain leave if they want to. They know that the UK leaving would be a disaster for the EU, politically, strategically and economically. That is why instead of the blase attitude you seem to think they have, they are perfectly prepared to work with Cameron to get what they all want, enough token changes to help him win the referendum.

It's quite telling that very similar arguments were used in the case of Greece. They signed up to the EU but now they want to change the rules. Well they shouldn't be allowed to and instead must face their deserved collective punishment.
 
Which Europeans do you mean? These are the rules of the European Union, they are not the rules of the average European. Or do you mean senior EU bureaucrats and other European leaders? Because despite what many smug liberals seem to believe they are not prepared to just sit there and let silly uncouth jumped up Britain leave if they want to. They know that the UK leaving would be a disaster for the EU, politically, strategically and economically. That is why instead of the blase attitude you seem to think they have, they are perfectly prepared to work with Cameron to get what they all want, enough token changes to help him win the referendum.

It's quite telling that very similar arguments were used in the case of Greece. They signed up to the EU but now they want to change the rules. Well they shouldn't be allowed to and instead must face their deserved collective punishment.
Aye whey, we are going to have the chance to dump the whole shitty bunch of them, the Greeks should have left and told them to whistle for their money.
 
I'm a proud fedora-wearer, and I'd never give my vote to either of those egotistical chihuahua molesters.

I was wondering about you when I wrote my comment.

So would it be true to say this issue is likely to cause a schism amongst National Association of Fedora Fanciers members?
 
I was wondering about you when I wrote my comment.

So would it be true to say this issue is likely to cause a schism amongst National Association of Fedora Fanciers members?

It'd be true to say that a faction of us are forming an armed wing with a view to liquidating the traitors Galloway and Farage, as well as their followers.
We are calling ourselves "Militant Union of Fedora Fetishists".
 
So Cameron has negotiated some very small changes to the UK relationship with Europe, but he is holding the referendum before these small changes have been confirmed by the European parliament. He says this is the biggest decision for a lifetime and wants people to vote on it without knowing if it will be agreed in full.

Will the circus over the last few days really make much difference to the way people vote?
 
Will the circus over the last few days really make much difference to the way people vote?
If anything I think its given ammunition for the Exit campaign, as it shows how hard it is to have control or influence within the union.

If the referendum vote goes to leave, there is the possibility Cameron will stand down and a snap election will be called. <something i read a few weeks ago. In fact even if the vote goes Camerons way he might stand down supposedly...
 
Gove has already passed his, and is looking particularly pleased about it.

Can't quite make out the signatures. Bloke on the left is John whatsit. Woman next to him is Thora something?
 
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