Tory leadership contest 2024

[SpookyFrank]

So there are only 130,000 tory party members.

And by the time I've finished writing this sentence, another few hundred will have died of old age.

 

[cupid_stunt]

And if the party were still in office it would be up to those 131, 680 to choose the prime minister.

Well, that happened with Lizzie the Lettuce, but she didn't last long.

 

[redsquirrel]

Which, of course, is totally meaningless, just a typical kneejerk reaction to a tax raising budget, well over 4 years before the next GE.

Of course a single poll now it does not mean that Labour will lose the next election. But the fact that Labour polling has crashed so spectacularly in such a short space of time is not meaningless.

 

[Lotte]

Rosie Duffield's probably going to join the Tories now.

 

[Petcha]

I've always found it quite bizarre that the Tories are actually the more diverse party. Labour needs to sort it out, look at their front bench.

Anyway, Badenoch will be gone by the next election.

 

[Lotte]

Yeah, they've had an Asian leader and now they've got a black one, and they've had four women. Labour have been white men from start to finish.

I guess the Tories are equal opportunity bastards and will welcome any POC who go out of their way to shit on people they don't like. And now we have to look forward to endless debates about What A Woman Is because fuck all the other issues Britain has to deal with.

 

[Wilf]

Of course a single poll now it does not mean that Labour will lose the next election. But the fact that Labour polling has crashed so spectacularly in such a short space of time is not meaningless.

Indeed and shows that the Labour lead was very shallow. Just 'not the tories', little active support for kieth.

 

[Lotte]

I did the dumbest fucking thing possible and read the thread about her on Mumsnet. They love her there. Three guesses as to why.

I think they have just made themselves considerably more electable by selecting Kemi.

Wow. Historic moment whatever your politics. Well done her and I hope the Tory party support her. The country needs a strong opposition.

She's the least bad choice, politically. For other reasons though, pleased for her personally.

She is intelligent, analytical, tenacious and unafraid. She is not always very politically astute. She has the potential to be incredibly good.

Great stuff. She will be a robust opposition leader which is what is needed.

And a black woman which is truly amazing, let's see if this bodes well for the USA to do the same and elect a black woman on Tuesday.

Diversity? Labour talk the talk, the Conservatives walk the walk... again.

Wooo I'm so happy for her. She has convictions, and like myself is a minority who's against woke DEI nonsense. And for all the bad rep the Conservatives get for being a racist party, they just elected a black, female leader because of what they believe she can deliver and not because of her identity. Britain is wayyy ahead of the US in this respect. Go Kemi!

Well I like her. She's a strong, eloquent woman who has a record of standing up for women. No, I'm not kidding. As Minister for Women and Equalities she stood up against the trans lobby to support women-only spaces, sex and biology against the usual screaming mob. I look forward to seeing her hold Labour to account in parliament

Kind of ironic to see one person going on about diversity and another saying Badenoch is anti-DEI. Which is it? Also, I doubt the people voting for Harris would have voted for Badenoch.

 

[Hollis]

Good result... Jenrick's just a cynical opportunist. Badenoch will be more interesting.

 

[breadandcircuse]

Did that idiot claiming she stands up for women miss her gaffe on maternity pay? Wazzock.

 

[_Russ_]

I'm Gobsmacked, the party members I know are racist to a degree that would make voting for a Black women unthinkable

 

[Lotte]

Someone did point that out to her and her response was 'No, I'm not kidding. As Minister for Women and Equalities she stood up against the trans lobby to support women-only spaces, sex and biology against the usual screaming mob. I look forward to seeing her hold Labour to account in parliament.'

Because trans people are always screaming hysterics, not like those reasonable, rational right-wingers who never do things like, say, trying to burn people alive for something that has nothing to do with them.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm Gobsmacked, the party members I know are racist to a degree that would make voting for a Black women unthinkable

How many do you know? I don't knowingly know any Tory party members.

130,000 in the whole country. It's quite an exclusive club.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I did the dumbest fucking thing possible and read the thread about her on Mumsnet. They love her there. Three guesses as to why.

Could we not just paste in endless crap from mumsnet? I could just go on mumsnet if I wanted to read that shit

 

[Lotte]

People post shit I don't want to read from other sites all the time and you don't see me complaining about it. Scrooooooooll. Or block me. And one post is not 'endless crap'.

Russ, the only reasonable thing I can think is that they're hoping to fuck her over like they did with, well, everyone.

 

[Boo Radley75]

I did the dumbest fucking thing possible and read the thread about her on Mumsnet. They love her there. Three guesses as to why.









Kind of ironic to see one person going on about diversity and another saying Badenoch is anti-DEI. Which is it? Also, I doubt the people voting for Harris would have voted for Badenoch.

Mumsnet members would vote for Graham Lineham to PM, given a chance.

 

[Lotte]

I'd also add that I am autistic, so yes, I do have a reason to be upset that a lot of people think Badenoch is awesome. I guess I'm not a real woman or something.

 

[andysays]

People post shit I don't want to read from other sites all the time and you don't see me complaining about it. Scrooooooooll. Or block me. And one post is not 'endless crap'.

Russ, the only reasonable thing I can think is that they're hoping to fuck her over like they did with, well, everyone.

Not sure that they would vote for her (or anyone) just to fuck her over, though that doesn't mean they won't fuck her over eventually.

Those who have voted for her have presumably done so because they think she is the best choice for Conservative leader, or at least the better of the two options they had to choose between.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Russ, the only reasonable thing I can think is that they're hoping to fuck her over like they did with, well, everyone.

Nah. They like her. She was always likely to win a head-to-head with this electorate. Sure many of them are racist. But she's a r/w nutjob. Like them. And in this instance, that wins.

Plus, Jenrick is clearly an idiot. Even idiots can see it. I mean Badenoch isn't the sharpest, but these things are relative.

And I'm guessing that there is also something particularly appealing about an anti-woke black person. Gives them permission to be anti-woke in their racist way. "We're with (bad)enoch."

 

[PR1Berske]

They like her because she's anti everything and that's the way conservative politics is going across Europe and other developed countries. She'll struggle trying to sell herself to the wider population.

 

[Hollis]

They like her because she's anti everything and that's the way conservative politics is going across Europe and other developed countries. She'll struggle trying to sell herself to the wider population.

yeah - I'm sure people were saying similar things about Thatcher in 1976.

 

[Rebecca Riot]

Isn't she supposed to be quite religious as well? I know she opposed banning conversion therapy which is popular in some Evangelical churches.

 

[Lotte]

Jenrick was an absolute shit tier opponent. I don't know why he even bothered. Although it's not like there's many options. The moderates have all left.

 

[tim]

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They like her because she's anti everything and that's the way conservative politics is going across Europe and other developed countries. She'll struggle trying to sell herself to the wider population.

Given the past six months she won't have to struggle very hard to sell herself better than Starmer to the wider population. As to being anti everything, what progressive policies have we seen from the current government?

 

[Lotte]

It's like the past 14 years never happened, isn't it.

 

[emanymton]

Anyway, Badenoch will be gone by the next election.

People keep saying this but I don't see why that had to be the case. Yes she is dreadful but Labour are fucking awful, even worse than I imagined, so I don't see the tories doing that badly over the next four years.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

People keep saying this but I don't see why that had to be the case. Yes she is dreadful but Labour are fucking awful, even worse than I imagined, so I don't see the tories doing that badly over the next four years.

I agree. If I were a betting person, my money would be on Badenoch being the Tory leader into the next election. I mean they could find ways to tear themselves apart between now and then, but I doubt it will happen. For starters, there are so few of them left!

 

[MickiQ]

It's Badenoch - 53,806

Jenrick - 41,388

Number of members eligible to vote: 131,680 Turnout: 72.8%

Spoilt ballot papers: 655 (610 unmarked or void, and 45 rejected because they voted for more than one candidate)

Voting for more than one candidate when there's only two is pretty awesome no matter which way you look at it.
Tbh I was expecting Robert 'Show Me The Money' Jenrick rather than Mad Enoch but I can't see her winning a GE. Sir Keir The Beige is having a bit of a popularity crisis at the moment but I don't think he is as unpopular in the real world as he is on Urban and he has plenty of time to turn things round.

 

[kebabking]

I'm not convinced that Badenoughs electoral success or otherwise is particularly relevant to whether she'd still be in post in 4 years - the Tory party is just not that cold-eyed electoral machine anymore, it's a mish-mash of loons who are obsessed with their single issue causes, and who don't care about the wider politics of X or Y leader, and that matters is this or that's leaders view of their particular single issue - which they all believe is the only path to electoral success.

Any of a dozen+ little grouplets in the PCP could stage a rebellion and get a VoNC...

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Any of a dozen+ little grouplets in the PCP could stage a rebellion and get a VoNC...

haven't they changed / aren't they changing the rules so a bigger percentage has to put letters in?