Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

[littlebabyjesus]

which would be part of the 6.31bn

Exactly.

But why would a person living in Hastings give a shit about the fact that a person in Kensington pays more into the EU than gets out of it? It's more complicated than 'the UK pays this and the UK receives that' - there's a false idea of a 'national interest' here.

 

[MarkyMarrk]

I think Farage had it correct when he said it would be set up for Cameron to threaten to leave and get a last minute deal that looks good for the UK.
Not that I mind if it works: in in favour of staying in. But I don't understand why Cameron has risked such a massive defeat.

 

[gosub]

Exactly.

But why would a person living in Hastings give a shit about the fact that a person in Kensington pays more into the EU than gets out of it? It's more complicated than 'the UK pays this and the UK receives that' - there's a false idea of a 'national interest' here.

It cost 541 million to get that 200 million, only a wonga customer would think there isn't scope for improvement

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It cost 541 million to get that 200 million, only a wonga customer would think there isn't scope for improvement

It didn't cost the people of Hastings 541 million. EU development grants go to areas deemed worthy across the EU. The people of such areas could just as easily be taken as a cross-national group that does well out of EU membership.

 

[brogdale]

Popcorn time when Hamhead finally comes home declaring peace in our time; apparently Gove is ready to break loose.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News

 

[weltweit]

I am not looking forward to the campaigning before the referendum, there are going to be very strange bedfellows in both the out and in campaigns. And arguments using all sorts of different reasoning arguing for the same outcome. It is going to be a mess!

 

[mk12]

Anyone heard of 'Grassroots Out'? They held a rally tonight, presented by Nigel Farage, at which George Galloway was surprisingly announced as the guest speaker. When his name was announced, half of the 1,500 people in the audience walked out. One activist left because Galloway is anti-Semitic, apparently.

 

[laptop]

George Galloway was surprisingly announced as the guest speaker. When his name was announced, half of the 1,500 people in the audience walked out.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Speech is well impressive? Sounds like he's he talking cobblers though

 

[Pickman's model]

Speech is well impressive? Sounds like he's he talking cobblers though

you can tell, cos his lips are moving

 

[Pickman's model]

Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News

not in this flat

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh and Gove has come out as OUT!

 

[laptop]

... arguments using all sorts of different reasoning arguing for the same outcome..!

"The EU prevents Trotskyism in one country!" - guess who...

"The EU prevents Ayn Randism in one country!" - Taxpayers' Alliance.

 

[DotCommunist]

Anyone heard of 'Grassroots Out'? They held a rally tonight, presented by Nigel Farage, at which George Galloway was surprisingly announced as the guest speaker. When his name was announced, half of the 1,500 people in the audience walked out. One activist left because Galloway is anti-Semitic, apparently.

yeah my local MP hollobone is a member. We got a leaflet. I think they were in this town around jan 26.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

not in this flat

I don't know, or care too much. Stopped caring tbh. Adopted the stance that if a bunch of wankers want something, then the opposite must be better for most of us. Has worked wonderfully for quite some time now...

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't know, or care too much. Stopped caring tbh. Adopted the stance that if a bunch of wankers want something, then the opposite must be better for most of us. Has worked wonderfully for quite some time now...

 

[coley]

I don't know, or care too much. Stopped caring tbh. Adopted the stance that if a bunch of wankers want something, then the opposite must be better for most of us. Has worked wonderfully for quite some time now...

Mmmm, but when opposing bunches of Tory wankers want the opposite of each other?

 

[coley]

Oh and Gove has come out as OUT!

No he's still on the fence.

 

[coley]

not in this flat

Or this hoose, the only real concrete thing he seems to have achieved is a level of protection for the 'city'
Who'd have believed it eh?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No he's still on the fence.

And really, who cares? He might as well be a Cameron stooge in the 'out' camp.

 

[coley]

This shiitty charade is meant to convince us that pigpyet has fought long and hard to secure us a good deal, when in fact, I suspect it was done and dusted months ago, the usual Shyte of taking us all for mugs.

 

[coley]

And really, who cares? He might as well be a Cameron stooge in the 'out' camp.

Couldn't give a toss, I'm voting out.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

This shiitty charade is meant to convince us that pigpyet has fought long and hard to secure us a good deal, when in fact, I suspect it was done and dusted months ago, the usual Shyte of taking us all for mugs.

Yep.

 

[gosub]

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This shiitty charade is meant to convince us that pigpyet has fought long and hard to secure us a good deal, when in fact, I suspect it was done and dusted months ago, the usual Shyte of taking us all for mugs.

Yes and no. His proud pronouncement of Tusks letter reveiled the bear trap, bit of a scrap since then , for a bit of paper I ain't read yet and isn't legally binding.
Nice of them to finish on time for the 10oclock news and the last editions though

I feel sorry for the chef, how many English themed meals went to waste

 

[sleaterkinney]

How can they fail?

 

[goldenecitrone]

How can they fail?

Between them they've got the little Englander and mental hard leftist vote sewn up.

 

[butchersapron]

Between them they've got the little Englander and mental hard leftist vote sewn up.

You stick with the sensible cameron centre.

 

[goldenecitrone]

You stick with the sensible cameron centre.

Right on cue.

 

[eoin_k]

Fucked if you do; fucked if you don't: abstentions the only platform I can make sense of...