Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

[Coolfonz]

As are the right wing remainers...which suggests that you need a different way of deciding how to cast your vote.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I dont line up with nazis. I realise governments have killed more people. But I'm not siding with nazis.

 

[redsquirrel]

So you oppose the re-nationalisation of industries?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I dont line up with nazis. I realise governments have killed more people. But I'm not siding with nazis.

So anyone voting to leave is lining up/siding with nazis...is that what you're telling me?

Louis MacNeice

 

[Pickman's model]

...Sir Oswald & Lady Diana Mosley were fervent pro-Europeans...

Hence the union movement

 

[Coolfonz]

Technically yes. But thats not what I mean as you a) know and b) can easily see from "Not trying to have a row, I know people here are sound".

 

[belboid]

Most of the far right in the EU actually support continued membership

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Technically yes. But thats not what I mean as you a) know and b) can easily see from "Not trying to have a row, I know people here are sound".

So you need not be lining up with nazis; you could choose to line up with some of the sound people on here. This is why I said about needing a different way of choosing...the nazi thing doesn't really work.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[DotCommunist]

closer to the famous labour isn't working one I'd say. in terms of semiology ahem

 

[Coolfonz]

So you need not be lining up with nazis; you could choose to line up with some of the sound people on here. This is why I said about needing a different way of choosing...the nazi thing doesn't really work.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Does for me.

 

[NoXion]

Does for me.

Nazis eat sugar. Maybe you should reconsider your dietary habits.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

closer to the famous labour isn't working one I'd say. in terms of semiology ahem

No I don't think so at all. In the labour isn't working, the queue was 'us'. In this image, the queue is very very much 'them'. Totally different.

 

[belboid]

It pretty clearly strongly resembles both. Garage would probably be thinking of the 1979 poster, the one that he and us actually remember, but this will be even scarier because it's full of dark skinned people.

 

[Pickman's model]

closer to the famous labour isn't working one I'd say. in terms of semiology ahem

unless you intend to invoke saussure, i think you mean semiotics

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It pretty clearly strongly resembles both. Garage would probably be thinking of the 1979 poster, the one that he and us actually remember, but this will be even scarier because it's full of dark skinned people.

It still has a pretty much inverted message from that one. That one was dangling the spectre of the dole queue, as in 'that could be you joining them'. (oh the irony). This one is dangling the spectre of 'them' joining 'us'.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Nazis eat sugar. Maybe you should reconsider your dietary habits.

The average human being has one bollock or less.

Just saying.

 

[William of Walworth]

Have to say I'm with newbie and Coolfonz here.

Much as I respect and understand the left-Brexit arguments, and Kelvin Hopkins has for a long time been my favourite left-Labour dissident MP, I voted Remain.

And that was pretty much 98.9% to do with not lining myself with the immigration-obsessives dominating the UK-establishment Brexit campaign

Yes, I do also perfectly well know that the UK-estabishment Remain campaign isn't worth a fuck either ...

 

[goldenecitrone]

In Germany they'd call Nigel a pinstripe Nazi.

 

[treelover]

Britain is in the midst of a working-class revolt | John Harris

Stoke, Merthyr, Birmingham, Manchester and even rural Shropshire, the same lines recurred: so unchanging that they threatened to turn into cliches, but all the more powerful because of their ubiquity. “I’m scared about the future” … “No one listens to us” … “If you haven’t got money, no one cares.”

John Harris seems to be getting somewhere.

 

[Pickman's model]

John Harris seems to be getting somewhere.

incisive analysis treelover

where do you think he is getting?

 

[treelover]

You tell me stalker?

That they feel abandoned, ignored, including by much of civil society and the left, i wait the organised left setting up food banks, new charities, social housing, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

That they feel abandoned, ignored, including by much of civil society and the left, i wait the organised left setting up food banks, new charities, social housing, etc.

and as if by magic it's another dig at the left.

food banks: have you never heard of food not bombs? social housing: have you not heard of the advisory service for squatters? "new charities"? you're a tory and no mistake, your only difference with that nefandous party being your objection to ids.

 

[treelover]

plenty of new charities for refugees, no problem with that, but you seem to have one?

 

[Pickman's model]

That they feel abandoned, ignored, including by much of civil society and the left, i wait the organised left setting up food banks, new charities, social housing, etc.

plenty of new charities for refugees, no problem with that, but you seem to have one?

wait a minute. one minute you want the left to set up new charities to ameliorate conditions for the working class, the next you start spouting on about charities for refugees. why is this?

 

[belboid]

plenty of new charities for refugees, no problem with that, but you seem to have one?

Do fuck off

 

[treelover]

wait a minute. one minute you want the left to set up new charities to ameliorate conditions for the working class, the next you start spouting on about charities for refugees. why is this?

because you have just decried the use of charities by the left, i just gave examples of new ones.

 

[Pickman's model]

because you have just decried the use of charities by the left, i just gave examples of new ones.

no, i did not decry the use of charities by the left. i was disparaging your suggestion that the left establish new charities.

next.

 

[treelover]

Anything to say about JH's article?

 

[Pickman's model]

Anything to say about JH's article?

yes.it's covering much the same ground as lisa mckenzie's article.

 

[treelover]

and

 

[Pickman's model]

and

just piss off tory boy, there's a good lad.