Johnny Canuck3
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Someone should have told Reagan: never put your glasses somewhere that people might sit on them.
The Trump presidency
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Raheem
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And he would have said: "So not on my face, then."
CrabbedOne
Walking sideways snippily
CRI
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Yes it's:
1. Renting space will be a huge cost to the taxpayer.
2. Money will go straight to Trump's pocket.
3. Massive conflict of interest.
4. Creates increased security risk due to a.) Trump family in permanent residence b.) military presence
5. Threatens other businesses in area due to increased security
Yes, in the past, security had to be beefed up for other other presidential residences, but these tended not to be much cheaper to secure (e.g. full security only required when occupied, only taking up rooms in the property or portacabins elsewhere on the grounds, etc.)
If it's not happening yet, I'm expecting Uncle Sam will also foot the bill for beefing up security on all Trump branded properties around the world, saving Trump an absolute fortune.
CRI
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Hmmmmm
Cyber expert's arrest silences Russian contacts of some Western crime fighters
Despite acrimonious relations between Russia and the United States in recent years, experts on cyber security in both countries say their law enforcement agencies and private firms had been working together more closely behind the scenes to fight financial fraud and other crimes committed online.
But at least some of that cooperation appears to have come to a sudden halt since Ruslan Stoyanov, head of the computer incidents investigation team at Russian cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab, was arrested in December on suspicion of treason.
Cyber expert's arrest silences Russian contacts of some Western crime fighters
Despite acrimonious relations between Russia and the United States in recent years, experts on cyber security in both countries say their law enforcement agencies and private firms had been working together more closely behind the scenes to fight financial fraud and other crimes committed online.
But at least some of that cooperation appears to have come to a sudden halt since Ruslan Stoyanov, head of the computer incidents investigation team at Russian cyber security firm Kaspersky Lab, was arrested in December on suspicion of treason.
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
This polling data is very interesting...all kinds of stats from the first weeks of the Trump presidency, including these gems:
"The attitudes of Trump voters on the issue of the order being a Muslim ban are telling. 71% claim they don't think the intent of the executive order was to ban Muslims from entering the country, to 23% who say that was the intent. But then when you ask Trump voters what their feelings on banning Muslims from the country are, they support it. 48% of Trump voters support banning Muslims from entering the country, to 40% who are opposed. So they say it's not a Muslim ban, but they want a Muslim ban, and 94% of them support the order."
"Obamacare continues to become more popular the more talk there is about repealing it. 46% of voters now say they support it to just 41% who are opposed. And only 33% of voters think the best course of action is for Congress to repeal the Affordable Care Act and start over, to 62% who think it would be better to keep it and fix the parts that need fixing."
"Less than 2 weeks into Donald Trump's tenure as President, 40% of voters already want to impeach him. That's up from 35% of voters who wanted to impeach him a week ago. Only 48% of voters say that they would be opposed to Trump's impeachment"
"Trump voters also continue to refuse to believe in the sincerity of those protesting him. 48% think the folks who protested at airports across the country last weekend were paid to do so by George Soros, to only 31% who think the protesters weren't paid. Trump voters thought the women's marchers were all paid by Mr. Soros as well so clearly the Trump administration is going to be very expensive for him. "
This is fascinating stuff! I urge everyone to read or skim the pdf, it's got lots of interesting charts and breakdowns of information
"The attitudes of Trump voters on the issue of the order being a Muslim ban are telling. 71% claim they don't think the intent of the executive order was to ban Muslims from entering the country, to 23% who say that was the intent. But then when you ask Trump voters what their feelings on banning Muslims from the country are, they support it. 48% of Trump voters support banning Muslims from entering the country, to 40% who are opposed. So they say it's not a Muslim ban, but they want a Muslim ban, and 94% of them support the order."
"Obamacare continues to become more popular the more talk there is about repealing it. 46% of voters now say they support it to just 41% who are opposed. And only 33% of voters think the best course of action is for Congress to repeal the Affordable Care Act and start over, to 62% who think it would be better to keep it and fix the parts that need fixing."
"Less than 2 weeks into Donald Trump's tenure as President, 40% of voters already want to impeach him. That's up from 35% of voters who wanted to impeach him a week ago. Only 48% of voters say that they would be opposed to Trump's impeachment"
"Trump voters also continue to refuse to believe in the sincerity of those protesting him. 48% think the folks who protested at airports across the country last weekend were paid to do so by George Soros, to only 31% who think the protesters weren't paid. Trump voters thought the women's marchers were all paid by Mr. Soros as well so clearly the Trump administration is going to be very expensive for him. "
This is fascinating stuff! I urge everyone to read or skim the pdf, it's got lots of interesting charts and breakdowns of information
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
christ the old lines. Paid agitators, proffesional protestors etc
oldest one in the book 'protesters given 10 pounds drink money and a packed lunch' looooool never happened
oldest one in the book 'protesters given 10 pounds drink money and a packed lunch' looooool never happened
CRI
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Where is "Arkensaw?"
You do realise that the vote for Trump was spread across the socio-economic classes in the US, right? The main predictor of support for Trump was and is race, along with views on abortion. Whether white folks think his tweets and speeches are adorable or embarrassing, as long as he gets abortion banned, they can deal.
Raheem
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But 48% of Americans not only believe it but also know who's writing the cheques. 48%! Voting in America's Got Talent is more responsibility than they should be allowed, I tell ya.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
The main predictor for trump was having voted republican before, in fact. The main difference this time was fewer voters of colour thought it worthwhile to vote for Clinton.Where is "Arkensaw?"
You do realise that the vote for Trump was spread across the socio-economic classes in the US, right? The main predictor of support for Trump was and is race, along with views on abortion. Whether white folks think his tweets and speeches are adorable or embarrassing, as long as he gets abortion banned, they can deal.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
If only eh
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'd be doing a lot more of it if they were laying on beer and sandwiches
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Trufax.
CRI
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Uh, voter supression?
80 odd percent of African Americans voted for Clinton, across the socio-economic classes. Similar proportions of white folks voted Trump. He still lost the popular vote though, by a long stretch.
CRI
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Raheem
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Soros only does matzos and the blood of Christian children. One of the main reasons Occupy fizzled out.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Indeed and I'm pretty sure that "80 odd percent of African Americans voted for Clinton" is also bollocks. Even if you make it 80 odd percent of the African Americans electorate voted for Clinton, I think it's on dodgy ground as you'd need a near 100% turnout of that group.
CRI
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I apologise that in my haste, I understated the proportion of African Americans who went Clinton and overstated the proportion of white folks who went Trump.
- 63% of white men and 52% of white women voted Trump.
- 13 % of African American men and 4% of African American women voted Trump.
- 31% of white men and 43% of white women voted Clinton.
- 82% of African American men and 94% of African American women voted Clinton.
A higher proportion of white voters went for a third party than black voters. If black voters thought Clinton was such a crap candidate, you'd expect more to vote third party.
Do you have some evidence for your claim that African Americans stayed away from the polls because Clinton was "unappealing?"
CRI
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Leach is a senator in the Pennsylvania General Assembly. Agree with his sentiments, but he wasn't the target, as the meeting with Sheriffs was in Texas.
It's most likely Texas State Senator Juan Hinojosa the Sheriff had in mind.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
CRI
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And your evidence race wasn't a significant factor in the US election is what exactly?
CRI
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No worries. I like Leach's attitude. I hope the tide is turning, but still wish there were more Democrat politicians cottoning on to the fact that the situation is way beyond the bounds of normal and they need to get their shit together and oppose the administration by all means necessary.
Tankus
Amused OAP
1.5 million re tweets surely
coley
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Aye, like said talk shows would entertain people phoning in to renounce their belief in Trump
I can fully understand how some people would have voted for Trump esp given the reassurances that his wilder intentions would be 'curtailed'
Anybody still proclaiming support for him, now has no defence against being described as a racist nutter.
coley
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It's going to be interesting, this fight Trump V the judiciary, the outcome will clearly define the next few years.
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