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Fuck me, so now we have coats from Canada and widgets from India both attracting duty and this somehow down to Brexit.

Regarding the coat from Canada. Yes the duty is clearly due to Brexit. Both the courier and the supplier are explicitly saying both the delays and the import charges are due to Brexit and with the supply chain involving shipment via Frankfurt and Cologne there is a plausible reason for it to be related to Brexit.

Why do you not believe this? Why do you think being charged import duty on a coat is normal. It is not and eventually the supplier Arcteryx did actually refund the import duties. Why would they do that if its just normal?

I suppose the next thing is that you will have to accept that you were wrong it is due to Brexit but then go on to just echo the government's line that it is just "teething troubles".
 
Regarding the coat from Canada. Yes the duty is clearly due to Brexit. Both the courier and the supplier are explicitly saying both the delays and the import charges are due to Brexit and with the supply chain involving shipment via Frankfurt and Cologne there is a plausible reason for it to be related to Brexit.

Why do you not believe this? Why do you think being charged import duty on a coat is normal. It is not and eventually the supplier Arcteryx did actually refund the import duties. Why would they do that if its just normal?

I suppose the next thing is that you will have to accept that you were wrong it is due to Brexit but then go on to just echo the government's line that it is just "teething troubles".

I do not believe it as I arrange this shit all day long, it is a large part of what I have done for a living for the past 32 years and that isn’t what happens, so either you are being lied to or you have misunderstood. The delay was almost certainly down to Brexit, but the import duty is cos you are importing a coat from Canada.
 
Why do you think being charged import duty on a coat is normal. It is not

 
I do not believe it as I arrange this shit all day long, it is a large part of what I have done for a living for the past 32 years and that isn’t what happens, so either you are being lied to or you have misunderstood. The delay was almost certainly down to Brexit, but the import duty is cos you are importing a coat from Canada.

So why the refund then?
 
They refunded the "government charges" and the "brokerage fees". Arcteryx have confirmed that the price you pay on the website is the final price. So they eventually refunded me the Brexit-related charges.
 

That link is irrelevant to my case. That's about a friend posting a coat which is very different from a company sending something which is advertised on the website as having free shipping and they also confim on the telephone should attract no additional add-on fees.
 
They refunded the "government charges" and the "brokerage fees". Arcteryx have confirmed that the price you pay on the website is the final price. So they eventually refunded me the Brexit-related charges.

Care to post up some paperwork and we’ll get to the bottom of it?

What I can tell you is that if you import in to the U.K. then duty and often VAT is due. It doesn’t matter where the goods are routed via as the transit is a customs bonded area. That is just fact, everything else you have posted sounds like a confusion has taken place, possibly with Arcteryx if they claim what you pay on the website is the final price. Whack up the docs and I’ll go through them for you tomorrow at work.
 
That link is irrelevant to my case. That's about a friend posting a coat which is very different from a company sending something which is advertised on the website as having free shipping and they also confim on the telephone should attract no additional add-on fees.

It is not irrelevant to you stating as fact that import duty on coats is abnormal, it is not. Whack up your paper trail and I’ll get to the bottom of it for you.
 
Care to post up some paperwork and we’ll get to the bottom of it?

What I can tell you is that if you import in to the U.K. then duty and often VAT is due. It doesn’t matter where the goods are routed via as the transit is a customs bonded area. That is just fact, everything else you have posted sounds like a confusion has taken place, possibly with Arcteryx if they claim what you pay on the website is the final price. Whack up the docs and I’ll go through them for you tomorrow at work.

It was a bog standard online transaction with limited paperwork I already posted pretty much everything I had upstream in this thread. I am not the only one facing this issue. See this thread.



It seems to me obvious that if there a spate of things being delayed in customs because of Brexit and people are having to pay charges of one sort and another before they can get delivery. It is all Brexit related. I can accept that there may be a layer of confusion/"teething problems" contributing to this, but don't tell me that this is not a Brexit-related issue.
 
OK, you choose to believe what you want to believe, you clearly want to live in this alternate reality where Brexit somehow affects imports to the U.K. from outside of the EU.
 
To think that import charges are not normal in this circumstance seems a fair enough interpretation of this email. "The amount you pay at the confirmation screen will be the total amount with no hidden or unexplained charges."

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Sorry, not really followed this but if they're dispatched from the warehouse in Germany wouldn't you expect there to be EU-related charges now?
 
According to that letter you are importing the coat from Germany and not from Canada and being shipped via Germany as you led us to believe.

So all this fuss is about the duty/VAT importing from the EU, that is now a thing, seems they have said it isn’t and gave you the duty/VAT back. What should happen is they don’t charge you the German VAT but you pay the courier U.K. VAT and duty. Exactly the same as importing from anywhere else that you are not in a customs union with.
 
Sorry, not really followed this but if they're dispatched from the warehouse in Germany wouldn't you expect there to be EU-related charges now?

No where on the website was there any mention of it being shipped from the EU. In any case I thought the Brexit deal was supposed to be tariff-free for goods. As regards my coat, its all a bit of a mess and while not understanding every twist and turn of what happened, it seems very likely that it was Brexit-related. I'm relatively happy now that I've eventually got my coat and I've eventually got a refund on all of the import and shipping fees.
 
No, it was shipped from a warehouse in Germany, which is a very different thing than via.

The distribution route of the coat was completely opaque to me when I bought the coat. The Canadian website talked about Free shipping to various countries nowhere did it mention where it was being shipped from.
 
Maggot said:
Can some of Urban's posters give us the benefits of Brexit? I'm struggling to see any.

Preferably tangible ones, not vague ideological ones.

kabbes said:
The question starting this thread has not been asked in good faith with an open mind. In fact, it’s passive-aggressive from post one. So it has no chance of producing anything constructive at all and is nothing but a call-out thread, which is against the rules.

kabbes said:
Your point was that Brexiters are stupid. So once again, that’s what is being discussed

I'm starting to think that he must be referring to another post, maybe an imaginary one. Cos he certainly doesn't seem to be referring to the OP.
 
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