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[Raheem]

Anyway, here's a question. Why don't UK firms that need to export into the EU simply set up branch offices in Belfast, and do it from there?

Educated guess: Something being exported typically starts its journey in a factory, farm or similar, rather than in a branch office.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Mental.

Anyway, here's a question. Why don't UK firms that need to export into the EU simply set up branch offices in Belfast, and do it from there?

Mental as in the situation or me?

A lot of companies can't afford to do that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Like you said yourself the lexit thing was marginal, it had no significant following in the party or the wider country, so why go in that direction.
The muddled mess is more down to Corbyns bad leadership - look also how the anti semitism thing was handled. He’s left Starmers hands tied, even when brexit is turning out bad.

oh right, it's all auld corbo's fault, it's never the fault of the right wing shits who spent the entirety of his leadership undermining him and briefing against him. and this doesn't really speak to sks's ability to lead if when corbo's been without the whip for months sks somehow still got his hands tied.

 

[Idris2002]

Educated guess: Something being exported typically starts its journey in a factory, farm or similar, rather than in a branch office.

Well, that's like the story of the accountant who, when asked what 2 + 2 adds up to, asks the client "what do you need it to add up to".

sleaterkinney - yes, I mean mental as in you. Would it be that expensive to have a PO box in Beal Feirste?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Well, that's like the story of the accountant who, when asked what 2 + 2 adds up to, asks the client "what do you need it to add up to".

sleaterkinney - yes, I mean mental as in you. Would it be that expensive to have a PO box in Beal Feirste?

There's a lot more to it than that, accounts, the legal side etc.

 

[editor]

Mental.

Anyway, here's a question. Why don't UK firms that need to export into the EU simply set up branch offices in Belfast, and do it from there?

The NI trade situation is hardly stable either. I imagine Brexit is making all of the UK a risky option for foreign businesses.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Even with an office in Belfast thats not going to help you if your goods are made in Scunthorpe or your fish landed in Fife.

 

[Raheem]

If you get yourself a PO box in Amsterdam, you can smoke dope right in front of the police and they can't touch you.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Entering the world of global foodstuff trading and not being able to meet a target partners minimum standards is a pretty wank idea tbf

 

[bimble]

Entering the world of global foodstuff trading and not being able to meet a target partners minimum standards is a pretty wank idea tbf

Doesn’t sound like a great plan, practically. But bendy bananas & Brussels beurocrats deciding what you can and can’t eat was a part of the problem with the eu for some people, including Johnson back when he made his living writing articles about that sort of crap.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Department for International Trade but not with the EU please leave us alone


"Don't ask us about Mrs Cake, dogs with orange eyebrows or the weather"

 

[bimble]

What’s the point of asking the questions if you know with absolutely certainty that the people you’re asking haven’t got any answers.

 

[Raheem]

What’s the point of asking the questions if you know with absolutely certainty that the people you’re asking haven’t got any answers.

How am I supposed to know?

 

[Pickman's model]

Doesn’t sound like a great plan, practically. But bendy bananas & Brussels beurocrats deciding what you can and can’t eat was a part of the problem with the eu for some people, including Johnson back when he made his living writing articles about that sort of crap.

articles written by johnson not worth the paper they're printed on

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What’s the point of asking the questions if you know with absolutely certainty that the people you’re asking haven’t got any answers.

As an opposition politician, those are the only questions you ever want to ask.

 

[bimble]

articles written by johnson not worth the paper they're printed on

 

[Pickman's model]

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as any marxist will tell you, what people are paid for their work and the value of their work are two completely different things

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yes, I thought so.

And despite the fact I owe no explanation at all, let me add the last time I bought new electronic equipment was in 2006 and it was an applemac powerbook. Since then I've made a point of only buying second-hand gear (including laptops) and encouraging every musician / producer / dj I know to do the same. Last brand new instrument I bought was a Lakewood guitar hand-made (they claim at least) from sustainable forest wood.

So 'righteous', maybe - even 'self-righteous' - but 'hypocrite', no. I get that you're angry and lashing out but I think you're better than this.

Sometimes Thomann & similar sites ARE not only A cheap source of materiel, but due to their buying power, the ONLY affordable source.
I want a pair of 10" Celestion speakers for a guitar amp cab. They would have been £48 a piece incl of VAT from Thomann pre-Brexit. Cheapest supplier I can find in dear old Blighty is £74 a piece.
I make a point of buying 2nd-hand where I can (a lot of my music kit is bought used), or home-made where possible, but some stuff needs to be bought new, & people/ordinary consumers shouldn't be punished financially when new kit is necessary.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If I'm tired of my wallpaper and I burn down my house, I imagine I'll experience some fleeting euphoria as it goes, but I'll struggle to file it in the 'win' column.

Unless it leads you to a new & lucrative career as an arsonist, obviously.

 

[stdP]

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Is that chicken feed rated to EU standards or is it pumped full of antibiotics and coming with a free chlorine bath?

 

[ViolentPanda]

there are other sources of secondhand gear than simply people casting off after upgrading. people die, their gear is sold. people downsize, their gear is sold. people lose interest, their gear is sold

People's gear is nicked, their gear is sold. Look in the window of any branch of CrackConverters.

 

[Pickman's model]

People's gear is nicked, their gear is sold. Look in the window of any branch of CrackConverters.

good point well made.

 

[mojo pixy]

Sometimes Thomann & similar sites ARE not only A cheap source of materiel, but due to their buying power, the ONLY affordable source.
I want a pair of 10" Celestion speakers for a guitar amp cab. They would have been £48 a piece incl of VAT from Thomann pre-Brexit. Cheapest supplier I can find in dear old Blighty is £74 a piece.
I make a point of buying 2nd-hand where I can (a lot of my music kit is bought used), or home-made where possible, but some stuff needs to be bought new, & people/ordinary consumers shouldn't be punished financially when new kit is necessary.

Yes, but..

I don't equate having to pay more for something with punishment. Most things really can be sourced used .. but Celestion 10" speakers are listed as £38 each at Gear4Music and I found them on ebay for £45 just now (+£7 postage)

I may be looking for the wrong thing though.

And I do get the annoyance, but honestly, some tech is simply underpriced, given the actual costs (including fairly-waged labour) of making them, and maybe they should cost more anyway. We in the west have been spoiled for too long with unrealistically-low prices.

 

[editor]

Yes, but..

I don't equate having to pay more for something with punishment. Most things really can be sourced used .. but Celestion 10" speakers are listed as £38 each at Gear4Music and I found them on ebay for £45 just now (+£7 postage)

I may be looking for the wrong thing though.

And I do get the annoyance, but honestly, some tech is simply underpriced, given the actual costs (including fairly-waged labour) of making them, and maybe they should cost more anyway. We in the west have been spoiled for too long with unrealistically-low prices.

How does buying the same product from a cheaper European warehouse source make any difference here?

 

[mojo pixy]

I was responding to ViolentPanda and I'm not keen to get into a discussion about anything brexit-related with you editor.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Grits for breakfast, that was grim.

Cheesy grits are very nice.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Many countries produce excellent cheese, tbf. Not really better or worse, just different.

Except the US. US cheese is just shit.

The stuff in the supermarkets is. Go somewhere like Minnesota or Wisconsin, & there's some wonderful cheese to be found. They take dairy produce very seriously.

 

[Idris2002]

If you get yourself a PO box in Amsterdam, you can smoke dope right in front of the police and they can't touch you.

And I don't mean no paper cup, I mean a glass of beer.

 

[teqniq]

CWS on form here:

 

[bimble]

Cheesy grits are very nice.

You probably like salty watery porridge too.