Yes, she was the one who decided on those red lines with pretty much no input and even less discussion.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
To put my bollocks into some perspective the UK had the smallest amount of emigrants than any other European state living in another country around the time of the referendum.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
This has been pointed out many times in the past four years so it's disappointing it seems to be news to you
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Oh? Fewer than Luxembourg, Lithuania, Estonia or Latvia? I think I smell a steamy pile of ordure
E2A about 1.2m UK citizens live in Europe outside the UK which I suspect is rather higher than the number of swedes, Danes, Luxembourgers, Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Maltese or indeed Cypriots who have moved to other countries in the eu
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Or finns
bimble
floofy
What made it possible for you then, that thing that 'the likes of Eileen' would never dream of? Do you think she doesn't know anyone who wants to or has retired in Spain because only posh people do that?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I was talking to one of the organisers of Unsound a couple of weeks ago. He reckons they'd have found putting that on in Italy very difficult now with brexit.
Elitist buggers, though, that Unsound lot. And everyone who went to it.
Elitist buggers, though, that Unsound lot. And everyone who went to it.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
really? This seems highly unlikely
"The EU countries with the largest number of people living in other EU countries in 2010 were Romania (2.3 million), Poland (1.9 million), Italy (1.7 million), Germany (1.5 million) and the UK (1.4 million)."
I doubt that 22 countries overtook the UK in the following six years.
Steel Icarus
we move
I wish you'd stop this. It's ridiculous. Loads of people on here voted to leave and virtually nobody will be "along soon to explain why this is a success" after you post yet another example of how the Tories are fucking everything up. You come across as the sort of person I used to know who'd be shitty to McDonald's workers because multinationals.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
really? Maybe she had a decent job and fancied selling her house and going somewhere cheaper when she retired. And now that 'free movement' has been ended, there is a very clear effect upon her freedoms. And that's before we get into her having cheaper goods and services available.
You didn't really think that comment through.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
aah, proportion is quite different to amount. I must admit I'm not quite sure what that 25% figure for the UK means, it obviously isnt that 25% of Britons live overseas or that the UK population is 25% immigrant.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I see they forgot about the irish
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It means that 25% of emigrants from the UK have emigrated to an EU country rather than, say Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Mongolia.
bimble
floofy
I think it means that of the number of brits that go to live in other countries most of them go outside the EU. So absolutely not 'we have the fewest emigrants of anyone in europe'.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If posters apologised every time they made a mistake or posted something someone else objected to it'd sound like nick clegg round here
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
as I said half remembered
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh that chart's one for the guardian down pan thread
Steel Icarus
we move
Balls, I'm tired of your behaviour on Brexit.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry ed, I appreciate lockdown and everything is proper shit, but this is utter nonsense and I routinely have read some of your posts last few times I've looked in, and I think you've really lost perspective to the point that you can't even see it - Steely is as far from that and you know it. Everybody is entitled to their takes, but you've gone down a bit of a weird liberal avenue the last few years seemingly looking to EU/Labour as somehow a top-down saviour. Buts its really been made worse with this incredibly lazy calling of urban left leavers - many of them anarchists, long-time anti-fascist/capitalists too - with 'brexiteers' just reflects badly on you as someone I've certainly always had respect and time for.
I have no beef with you whatsoever, but seriously, slow down.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He did nothing of the sort
It's by no means complimentary. But that's not what he says.
editor
hiraethified
I've just been described as the sort of person who verbally abuse McDonalds workers. Forgive me if I find that offensive. Strange that you seem to think this is acceptable behaviour.
You've no idea what my politics are, btw. They're certainly not what you've just projected in your post.
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hiraethified
" You come across as the sort of person I used to know who'd be shitty to McDonald's workers because multinationals. "
You can butt out now.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He said you come across as the sort of person. Not you are the sort of person. I am sure you can tell the difference.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
is this you posting as a poster or you posting as a mod?
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hiraethified
Oh for fucks sake.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I agree that it's unfair to expect urban's anarchist and anti-capitalist types to have foreseen how things would turn out and they shouldn't be given hassle for getting it wrong. The tens of millions of people who did think it would go this way were just incredibly lucky in their guess.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
oh for fucks sake yourself. If you want to prove yer man's point you're doing a bloody good job of it. You make out he's accused you of being a cunt to mcd's workers. He hasn't. Go and do something else for a bit because you're not doing yourself any favours on this threadOh for fucks sake.
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