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If I won the euro millions I’d totally put it into my normal current account, just so I could have the novelty of seeing the amount on a bank statement / atm screen.


Well yeah, of course, you could spend hours at the atm asking to see your balance, maybe print it too. But as only £85,000 out of your £150,000,000 is insured I wouldn't leave it there too long...

P.S., can you lend me a tenner?
 
Well yeah, of course, you could spend hours at the atm asking to see your balance, maybe print it too. But as only £85,000 out of your £150,000,000 is insured I wouldn't leave it there too long...

P.S., can you lend me a tenner?
You've just reminded me of when my old Mum first got her atm card and went down to the bank machine to get out forty quid and, having read the instruction about entering in multiples of at least £5, promptly ordered up £55,555,555 :D

She had to go in to get her card back.
 
More 'success' from Brexit:

Just under half of British companies that export goods have run into difficulties caused by the Brexit shift in trade terms with the European Union since the start of the year, a British Chambers of Commerce survey showed on Thursday.

 
You've just reminded me of when my old Mum first got her atm card and went down to the bank machine to get out forty quid and, having read the instruction about entering in multiples of at least £5, promptly ordered up £55,555,555 :D

She had to go in to get her card back.
I love that story because it says so much about the assumptions embedded into instructions taken for granted by the person who wrote them.
 
If you win the Euromillions tomorrow that's just shy of £150m, you can't deposit that in your Nat West account (well, you could, but for the love of god please don't). You need somewhere that is secure for it to sit. The City provides a very secure environment for money, there will be no bonfire of regulations as that would make it less secure.
If I won the Euromillions tomorrow I have lots of nieces and nephews (as well as my own kids) I would give money to. It would be funny to just deposit a £million in their account without telling them first and seeing how they react.
 
If I won the Euromillions tomorrow I have lots of nieces and nephews (as well as my own kids) I would give money to. It would be funny to just deposit a £million in their account without telling them first and seeing how they react.

You were always my favourite uncle :thumbs:






Sorry Bees, bets must be hedged.
 
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If I won the Euromillions tomorrow I have lots of nieces and nephews (as well as my own kids) I would give money to. It would be funny to just deposit a £million in their account without telling them first and seeing how they react.
They would all assume it was some kind of banking error and keep quiet about it. At the next family Christmas gathering they'd all arrive in fancy sports cars and there would be an odd vibe in the air.
 
bit harsh
I mean it perfectly sums up the clusterfuck of Brexit. People being sold this ludicrous glorious Return Of The Empire dream where the blue passports are proudly held aloft, the NHS overflows with EU cash, Johnny Foreigners are kept at bay, and Britain holds it own with the world while - somehow - being free to carry on enjoying all those handy EU benefits that we've got used to.
 
I mean it perfectly sums up the clusterfuck of Brexit. People being sold this ludicrous glorious Return Of The Empire dream where the blue passports are proudly held aloft, the NHS overflows with EU cash, Johnny Foreigners are kept at bay, and Britain holds it own with the world while - somehow - being free to carry on enjoying all those handy EU benefits that we've got used to.
It's a problem with the referendum system - asking one-line questions about something that has a far from one-line answer. Switzerland suffered a similar problem when it voted narrowly to end free movement with the EU. But voters weren't asked which other things they were prepared to give up in order to end free movement. Eventually it went back to another referendum, which voted to keep free movement after all.

Now according to the logic of some, that was an affront to democracy, but is it democratic to dogmatically plough on regardless even after all kinds of negative consequences that weren't mentioned in the original vote have come to light?
 
I feel sorry for Eileen, a tiny bit. Nobody told her that her village might turn into a lorry park did they.
yeah me too, fuck that. id expect there were some kind of planning laws to stop this kind of thing from happening
sounds really out of order
 
I feel sorry for Eileen, a tiny bit. Nobody told her that her village might turn into a lorry park did they.
I feel sorry for people negatively affected by brexit whichever way they voted in the referendum. That's a political basic for me. They were offered the prospect of a free lunch of their choosing, but a different meal turned up and now they've been told they have to pay for it as well.
 
I feel sorry for people negatively affected by brexit whichever way they voted in the referendum. That's a political basic for me. They were offered the prospect of a free lunch of their choosing, but a different meal turned up and now they've been told they have to pay for it as well.
The worst thing was not knowing what we were gonna get until the last minute, so being unable to prep for it. I'm in a Whatsapp group for my trade, for small businesses, it's wiped out everyones European export business, overnight - it's the unexpected charges. The shipping websites we use when booking shipments don't even tell us how much the fees are gonna be, because no one has edited it to include the new export codes, yet so it's been a guessing game, that sort of thing. I think some of us can sort things - for instance most of the businesses in my group manufacture in mainland Europe anyway, so its a case of using an order fullfillment warehouse in the Eurozone for that business. But I've had to stop one part of my business, the prototyping in the UK, because I can't make it work, things take too long and cost too much. I paid a £140 shipping bill for two metres of fabric from Italy, which took me about 20 emails and a load of form filling in order to import! Bonkers! It would've been cheaper to fly there and get it myself. I've had to buy components in the UK (that I normally buy from Italy) to complete orders that are late and the quality of them is dire. I'm working with a craftsman (used to be based in London) who moved back to Athens, because of Brexit! Most of the skilled people we have in the trade in the UK are immigrants. This situation has been impacted as much with Covid as with Brexit so I hope it'll improve as people set new systems up and adapt. I'm lucky to have been able to replace this part of my business with pure design work, but not everyone can do that! I'm just very relieved we signed the Japan trade deal, that's basically salvaged some of our UK manufacturing, because Japan was the first market for this stuff, it was never Europe. Like car manufacturers, they even invest in UK factories, there's one in Northampton making Goodyear Welted they spent millions setting it up.
 
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Well that SHOWED THEM! A real success story.

The economic blow dealt by Brexit will be four times greater in the UK than the EU, according to the latest forecasts by Brussels.

A month into the new relationship, the European commission said the UK’s exit on the terms agreed by Boris Johnson’s government would generate a loss in gross domestic product (GDP) by the end of 2022 of about 2.25% in the UK compared with continued membership. In contrast, the hit for the EU is estimated to be about 0.5% over the same period.

 
Well, yeah...Dover is quite South...but as ever with these things the negative externalities associated with the location of Kent's fifth border customs checkpoint will impact predominately upon folk already facing some deprivation. Dover ain't a rich place.

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The tone of little anecdotes like this is always the same though isn’t it . Person votes leave , and because they didn’t see THAT coming, they can be laughed at .A lot of the more smug remainers , who have with the benefit of some of the highest quality hindsight for decades and saw everything coming ,like it best when it’s a W/ class leaver .
 
Well, yeah...Dover is quite South...but as ever with these things the negative externalities associated with the location of Kent's fifth border customs checkpoint will impact predominately upon folk already facing some deprivation. Dover ain't a rich place.

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People tend to dismiss the south as metropolitan elite but even bits of London feature pretty fucking highly in the poverty rankings.
 
The tone of little anecdotes like this is always the same though isn’t it . Person votes leave , and because they didn’t see THAT coming, they can be laughed at .A lot of the more smug remainers , who have with the benefit of some of the highest quality hindsight for decades and saw everything coming ,like it best when it’s a W/ class leaver .
That's often true; just didn't/don't get the "Southerners" bit.
Maybe I'm just not reading it right?
 
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