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[The39thStep]

That's often true; just didn't/don't get the "Southerners" bit.
Maybe I'm just not reading it right?

I was being ironic . Normally it’s northern leavers that get ridiculed .

 

[brogdale]

I was being ironic . Normally it’s northern leavers that get ridiculed .

Me being slow.
Apols.

 

[The39thStep]

Me being slow.
Apols.

No that’s fine mate . If in doubt just ask .

 

[TopCat]

Philosophical’s creed gains favour.

 

[platinumsage]

Stock trading should probably be filed with au pairs and live animal exports as nefarious things that brexit is cleaning from our island. Amsterdam was the finance capital of Europe before wasn't it, a few hundred years ago i think, swings & roundabouts.
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That headline is bunk. Firstly it only refers to EU trading, not international trading, and secondly it only refers to trading on the London Stock Exchange, ignoring that the vast majority of trades are done directly, off the exchanges.

It‘s just a result of EU regulators requiring more EU trades to be done In the EU on-book, and doesn’t really say anything at all about the relatives sizes of Amsterdam and London as financial centres.

 

[brogdale]

Normally it’s northern leavers that get ridiculed .

Which conveniently forgets that more people in the South East region voted Leave than any other region.

 

[bimble]

Which conveniently forgets that more people in the South East region voted Leave than any other region.

I didn’t know that. More people as in higher percentage of population ?

 

[brogdale]

I didn’t know that. More people as in higher percentage of population ?

No, in absolute number.

The breakdown by region shows that other regions had higher % Leave votes than SE:

 

[Supine]

Spending a billion quid to replicate a database rather than agreeing to work with the EU. Good old brexit keeps on delivering.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

There will be British chemicals!

 

[contadino]

Spending a billion quid to replicate a database rather than agreeing to work with the EU. Good old brexit keeps on delivering.

There goes 3 weeks of NHS windfall funds... Tsk!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Spending a billion quid to replicate a database rather than agreeing to work with the EU. Good old brexit keeps on delivering.

Christ almighty.

 

[editor]

Spending a billion quid to replicate a database rather than agreeing to work with the EU. Good old brexit keeps on delivering.

I'm sure there'll be a Brexit supporter along soon to explain why this is, in fact, a success.

 

[agricola]

Spending a billion quid to replicate a database rather than agreeing to work with the EU. Good old brexit keeps on delivering.

Apparently the billion pound cost is mainly down to the work to rearrange the periodic table, which we apparently officially own. They've had the finest minds trying to rearrange the elements so that new, patriotic, groups of elements can be formed in ways that spell out our greatness - Rubidium, Titanium, Silicon and Hydrogen for example will be at the top, in the biggest letters and awarded the most atoms.

 

[Raheem]

Billion pound figure is probably just plucked out of the air. Someone in the cabinet must surely know someone with an Excel licence and a weekend free.

 

[skyscraper101]

Apparently the billion pound cost is mainly down to the work to rearrange the periodic table, which we apparently officially own. They've had the finest minds trying to rearrange the elements so that new, patriotic, groups of elements can be formed in ways that spell out our greatness.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

Europium, srsly?
If yanks are allowed to rename Aluminium, then I insist we be allowed to call this particular element Churchillium

 

[SpookyFrank]

Billion pound figure is probably just plucked out of the air. Someone in the cabinet must surely know someone with an Excel licence and a weekend free.

They also know that that person is a crook who will submit a quote of a billion quid for the work and get it without any tendering process.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

(((Eileen)))

"Free Country" eh ? I wonder if that could ever be articulated. Being free to live and work and trade freely with 27 countries sounds like whole lot of freedom to me.

 

[two sheds]

They also know that that person is a crook who will submit a quote of a billion quid for the work and get it without any tendering process.

Worth contacting them and suggesting we'll do the work for them in exchange for a £10,000 payment to the party as soon as we get first installment.

 

[Artaxerxes]

"Free Country" eh ? I wonder if that could ever be articulated. Being free to live and work and trade freely with 27 countries sounds like whole lot of freedom to me.

50 years of propaganda have convinced people the EU is just Nazi Germany rebranded and that nobody else but the yanks (maybe) were involved in the war.

 

[editor]

More SUCCESS!

Before Brexit, Fashion Enter, an e-commerce business with a pair of factories in Britain, could place an order for high-quality thread made in Germany and receive it in perhaps five days.
A recent order took more than three weeks. It also incurred a handling charge of £44 pounds (more than $60) to cover the preparation of customs paperwork.
Without the thread, the company had to postpone work on a crucial order — 10,000 protective gowns for frontline medical workers at the National Health Service.
The thread supplier now imposes a minimum of £135 ($185) on orders from Britain, cognizant that a lower amount would require it to register to pay British value-added taxes, said Jenny Holloway, Fashion Enter’s chief executive officer.

Before Brexit, a truck loaded with 25,000 liters of cream from a dairy plant in northern Wales could travel overnight and reach France by morning. Now, that same journey can take five days, complained Philip Langslow, director of County Milk Products.

The dairy must alert the authorities of the export at least 24 hours before departure, and must supply a weight — something it cannot know for sure until the tanker truck is loaded. If its weight differs from what is reported on the paperwork, the shipment may be rejected on arrival. Mr. Langslow’s company has cut its exports by half.

“Antigua is easier than Amsterdam,” he said of some export orders.

53 Tons of Rotting Pork and Other Brexit Nightmares (Published 2021)

With Britain out of the European Union, companies that trade with the continent are contending with expensive disruptions to their businesses and a plunge in exports.

www.nytimes.com

 

[bimble]

What was it that made leaving the customs union an important thing for the government when they were interpreting the referendum result? Why did that become a red line what’s the hoped-for benefit?

 

[kabbes]

What was it that made leaving the customs union an important thing for the government when they were interpreting the referendum result? Why did that become a red line what’s the hoped-for benefit?

Theresa May had been a remainer and wanted to win round the Brexit wing of her party by being Brexitier-than-thou

 

[The39thStep]

"Free Country" eh ? I wonder if that could ever be articulated. Being free to live and work and trade freely with 27 countries sounds like whole lot of freedom to me.

Except for the likes of Eileen and no doubt, millions of others the freedom' to live work, and trade freely with 27 countries' is to her abstract freedom, a bit like saying you have the freedom to be a billionaire.

 

[bimble]

Theresa May had been a remainer and wanted to win round the Brexit wing of her party by being Brexitier-than-thou

That’s it? There’s no real reason apart from the personal political hopes of mrs may before she went to work in a garden center instead?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Except for the likes of Eileen and no doubt, millions of others the freedom' to live work, and trade freely with 27 countries' is to her abstract freedom, a bit like saying you have the freedom to be a billionaire.

Oh bollocks. A few people have been coming out with this as if it were some impossible dream for the masses. There will be plenty of older people who have no intention of ever upping sticks to live and work in another country, but there are millions of young people of all socio-economic classes for whom it is absolutely an option, and that's reflected in the way young people voted.

 

[Artaxerxes]

That’s it? There’s no real reason apart from the personal political hopes of mrs may before she went to work in a garden center instead?

Pretty much, Brexit was always an attemtp to unite the slathering halves of the Conservative party and patch the slow but persistent leak towards UKIP

 

[contadino]

What was it that made leaving the customs union an important thing for the government when they were interpreting the referendum result? Why did that become a red line what’s the hoped-for benefit?

I think that many pro-brexit MPs believe(d) that leaving the customs union means that they are free from regulations (environment, employee, quality control, etc..) So buccaneering blighty would be free to flood the European market with cheap, unsafe tat.

Oddly, the EU aren't so keen on that, hence the wrangling before Xmas.

So now it's just us in the UK who get the benefit of unsafe, shonky products.

 

[Supine]

Brexiteers now enjoy their political freedom by asking EU governments for permission to go on holiday. Brexit bonus.