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The Falklands' nearest neighbors, Argentina and Chile (the latter of whom it has excellent relations with) are both huge squid producers and net exporters. Chile exports a massive amount of squid to the East Asian market. So no, not really. If the Falklands were to shift its squid export focus it would also have to pivot to Asia, which is not closer than Europe.
The only way to improve relations is for both sides to offer olive branches really, and the Falklands is unlikely to be the one to try and instigate it. There is an ongoing dispute between the Falklands and Argentina concerning fishing waters. Indeed, Argentina's massive fishing fleet is accused of deliberately trying to catch squid (of the illex variety) that are headed towards Falklands waters to reduce the islands' catch and therefore squeeze them economically. Bit ridiculous obviously but I cannot see the Falklands offering any concessions to Argentina in order to improve relations.
From a wider perspective, this squid dispute could have terrible ecological consequences as deliberate overfishing (illegal) of these squid will impact lots of other animals, with further ramifications for both Argentina and the Falklands.
As in the case of the UK's own fishing waters and the arguments about that, there is friction between what's good for the economy, for jobs, for people, and what's good for the environment. There are no simple answers of course; both the narratives of "leave all the fish in the sea" and "blue growth" miss the mark. What's needed is an end to industrial-scale trawler fishing and support for the small-scale fisheries whose catch does not threaten the existence of stocks (even calling fish populations "stocks" is a bit off really if you think about it, the sea isn't a fucking warehouse), and that applies pretty much everywhere. But good luck getting the big players to agree to that -- and I don't just mean China (whose boats regularly invade Chilean/Argentinian waters to fish illegally, not to mention African waters), it's Russian, US and European boats too. And when they see the powerful countries fishing illegally with impunity, smaller countries like Argentina say "well if they're overfishing then I will too", understandably so really, but it's an ongoing not-so-slow-motion train wreck that poses an existential threat to multiple ecosystems.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Actually apologies Renew seems to have backed off campaigning to rejoin the EU. However it has big ambitions .
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Wont someone think of the children?
eminetra.co.uk
British au pairs under threat from new immigration rules - Eminetra.co.uk
The UK au pair childcare program is at risk of disappearing as a result of a new post.Brexit Immigration regulations, industry groups warn. An estimated 45,000 families in the UK, including many key workers such as doctors, nurses and police, rely on long-standing au pair cultural exchange...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's not a huge swing tbf. A plurality rather than a majority.
As this shitshow plays out I can see the idea of joining EFTA gaining ground. After all, that, or something similar, is what a sizeable chunk of people who voted leave expected their vote to mean.
ska invita
back on the other side
including leading brexiters - not least Nigel Norway Farage
but i think the rule-taking BINO argument played out in real time and it would take a generational shift for people not to care about that anymore
eta: maybe if the new canzuk neocolonial deregulated project visibly fails a limping rUK might limp back in sometime after?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
If Scotland goes for independence, it's likely to want to join EFTA pretty quickly. rUK could be left with little choice other than to follow suit.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Still punting Hoxhaist ideology 30 years on after the death of the Great Helmsman. Next level mental, really.
Wikipedia estimated the party membership at 60 in the mid 80s. Dividing that number by 10 today would probably be a generous estimate of the current ranks. I very much doubt anyone under the age of 60 as well.
Wikipedia estimated the party membership at 60 in the mid 80s. Dividing that number by 10 today would probably be a generous estimate of the current ranks. I very much doubt anyone under the age of 60 as well.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
No, he was part of Reg Birch’s Maoist caucus, the CPBM-L (also still extant, astonishingly, and actually have some young people pictured on their home page.)
For an added R you move from Mao’s great leap forward to Hoxha’s radical self-sufficiency and total national mobilisation. Fine margins, lads, fine margins.
gosub
~#
The EFTA route was n't open to UK, in part, due to a size compatibility issue (not a problem for Scotland but England would still be comparatively large in comparison to EFTA member states)
mauvais
on reddit or something
Fury at Gove as exports to EU slashed by 68% since Brexit
Hauliers say Cabinet Office minister ignored their warnings, amid fears that worse is to come with introduction of import checks in July
Exports down 68%, whoops. But it's probably all things that should be stopped anyway, or middle class shit.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Fury at Gove as exports to EU slashed by 68% since Brexit
Hauliers say Cabinet Office minister ignored their warnings, amid fears that worse is to come with introduction of import checks in Julywww.theguardian.com
Exports down 68%, whoops. But it's probably all things that should be stopped anyway, or middle class shit.
Tough tittie Fritz. Guess you'll just have to do without your Kendall mint cake and Quavers for the foreseeable.
ska invita
back on the other side
68Pc compared to last Jan, which was precovid , but obviously Covid won't be all of that loss.Fury at Gove as exports to EU slashed by 68% since Brexit
Hauliers say Cabinet Office minister ignored their warnings, amid fears that worse is to come with introduction of import checks in July
Exports down 68%, whoops. But it's probably all things that should be stopped anyway, or middle class shit.
ska invita
back on the other side
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Wont someone think of the children?
British au pairs under threat from new immigration rules - Eminetra.co.uk
The UK au pair childcare program is at risk of disappearing as a result of a new post.Brexit Immigration regulations, industry groups warn. An estimated 45,000 families in the UK, including many key workers such as doctors, nurses and police, rely on long-standing au pair cultural exchange...
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Posh people are going to be forced to spend time with their own children at this rate
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
COVID will take care of that.
It just means that the exporters will sell their goods here, isn’t that how it works?. I wonder how that trade deficit is looking now.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Posh people are going to be forced to spend time with their own children at this rate
(((Posh people)))
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
(((Posh people's children)))(((Posh people)))
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Hmm I know some of the CPBML / workers.org lot quite well. They survived by taking management jobs in the London Region of Unison and making career progression within the bureaucracy conditional on party membership.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
They like Norman Wisdom films, apparently.
ska invita
back on the other side
right on cue
Lib Dems: Uneasy party ponders long road back to EU
Ed Davey wants to focus on Covid but others seek more immediate answer to lingering Brexit question.
www.bbc.co.uk
ska invita
back on the other side
give us some tidbits?I would like to talk more about the inner workings of thisit might help some of the pro-brexit posters.
you are posting anonymously here, and there are a lot of badgers in the UK
TopCat
Putin fanboy
When the grace period expires will be the big test. No reason to think the uk govt is prepared not euro business importing here. The uk govt probably thought a further agreement is possible before then. Though there is not much good will as shown with the vaccine border debacle.
Whether the desire from the EU to keep their exports here going will cause them to thrash something out remains to be seen.
Any jobs going in customs? Nephew is Maths first and needs a job.
Whether the desire from the EU to keep their exports here going will cause them to thrash something out remains to be seen.
Any jobs going in customs? Nephew is Maths first and needs a job.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Is that posh people who are key workers and need someone to look after the children? This is a step backwards for women.Posh people are going to be forced to spend time with their own children at this rate
ska invita
back on the other side
well like Bimble said above, and has been said in the run up theres supposed need for 40-50k new border agents
one fella i heard talking this week in a big business was saying the problem they have is that they've employed some new customs people for their business but they have such a backlog of customs work to do that they cant let the people who understand it take time off to train the newbies
i can imagine that might be a bit of an issue scaled up for the state. Training 50k new people into endless complex border regulations, seems a massive task to me. For scale the entirety of manchester university has 40k students across all years, so only 13k graduate every year. 50k people is a lot to teach.
Is there a big program to recruit and train happening? Ive internet searched and i cant see anything. Badgers?
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