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Correct me if I'm wrong - but does this put England (not necessarily UK) on the fast track to being no more than a support system for the City of London? A financial centre that is increasingly dependent on funny money from all manner of international oligarchs, mafiosi etc.?

And could Brexit as a whole be seen as the last battle between British industrial and financial capital, fought on the terrain of the Conservative party?
 
When I can be arsed I'll get an Irish passport , doesn't seem much point at the moment when I can't go anywhere :hmm: . Day one of the new world doesn't feel any different than yesterday .
 
Correct me if I'm wrong - but does this put England (not necessarily UK) on the fast track to being no more than a support system for the City of London? A financial centre that is increasingly dependent on funny money from all manner of international oligarchs, mafiosi etc.?

And could Brexit as a whole be seen as the last battle between British industrial and financial capital, fought on the terrain of the Conservative party?

We've been there since the 80s
 
We used to have a dual carriageway all along Anglesey, now we have a contraflow and 10 mile long car park. Happy Brexit Day!
 

Pretty optimistic take here.

Personally I feel that threads like this need to die quickly in 2021 (sorry, brogdale). If everything continues to be seen through the prism of Brexit then I suspect discussions will never really move on.


c Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson 2021
 
Pretty optimistic take here.
Very short on practical positives that piece. I'm all up for being optimistic, but it would be nice to channel that more accurately.
Key passage is about the danger of permanent Tory Rule... Something the Guardian does it's level best to maintain.

As an aside I have read Larry a bit since the financial crisis... He seems to regularly get everything as wrong as most economists
 
Fucking... just cunts. What price lexit now? Surely any illusions that brexit was ever anything other than the putting of “the pursuit of profit” and “individual prosperity” ahead of “the common good” and the “dignity of work and workers” must be fading to invisibility by now.
When did the UK last have a government that talked about 'common good” and the “dignity of work and workers” ?
 
When did the UK last have a government that talked about 'common good” and the “dignity of work and workers” ?

Yes we need change. It’s just that far too many people seem to have fallen for the non-sequitur that this [brexit] is change therefore we need it.
 
Fucking... just cunts. What price lexit now? Surely any illusions that brexit was ever anything other than the putting of “the pursuit of profit” and “individual prosperity” ahead of “the common good” and the “dignity of work and workers” must be fading to invisibility by now.

What price remain? What price peoples vote? What price FBPE? :rolleyes:

E2A: These things are what cost the possibility of 'dignity of work and workers'.
 
Yeah, the EU sets minimum VAT rates on products that it's members must apply.

I had no idea! Amazing that that didn't come up much in the debate about the last four years really, especially when there was a big campaign around that at one point. Did I miss something?
 
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