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[TopCat]

After a week in captivity without food the cabinet will be ready to be live exported

Progress.

 

[Pickman's model]

Progress.

They'll have to be fattened up before being fed to the penguins

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

We've always had an inferiority complex with regards to them, as have most of their neighbours (the Germans especially). It is after all the part of Europe thats nearly always been the best part of Europe to live, with the most natural advantages and with the best style of life - good food, good wine, good views, good weather etc.

I think recently though, its the Eurotunnel that is to blame. Flying between Heathrow and CDG (or any French airport), or taking the ferry is pretty much swapping one standardized travel experience for another, but taking the train is basically you moving from a backwards country to a modern one. Its really obvious how cramped the Underground is (even a relatively modern line like the Victoria) after going on the RER, and as for the intercity services the difference between even the most modern trains here and the oldest TGV (never mind the Duplex) is vast. Everything about SNCF is demonstrably superior to here, even daft things like ticketing.

Suburban rail in the UK is vastly superior to that in France, in terms of coverage and frequency of trains.

 

[TopCat]

It seems it's very first world problems being anticipated. Band visa forms, cross border transportation of dogs to second homes, impoverished stock brokers.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It seems it's very first world problems being anticipated. Band visa forms, cross border transportation of dogs to second homes, impoverished stock brokers.

Yeah but southwest Slavic plays.

 

[Pickman's model]

It seems it's very first world problems being anticipated. Band visa forms, cross border transportation of dogs to second homes, impoverished stock brokers.

Transportation of impoverished stockbrokers to second homes...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fuck me. Education exchange opportunites are just an elite concern? How the fuck did you get to such a stupid place?

 

[The39thStep]

The sound of bleating will keep us all awake at night for the first week.

Squeaky wheel syndrome.

 

[agricola]

Suburban rail in the UK is vastly superior to that in France, in terms of coverage and frequency of trains.

The mid-afternoon break in services was certainly annoying, but coming from a (reasonably populated, at least in Welsh terms) place where the nearest station was an hour's walk to catch an hourly service I must say I've never really thought we had a great coverage or frequency of trains.

 

[Pickman's model]

Fuck me. Education exchange opportunites are just an elite concern? How the fuck did you get to such a stupid place?

Followed you.

 

[The39thStep]

Apart from more port congestion, some foods running short and some inflation, will ordinary folk notice any difference when they wake up Friday in the UK's new relationship with the supra-state

There are some heartfelt issues raised here by ordinary folk What the European Union has meant to us

 

[Crispy]

Even HS2 is going to be an upgrade on what we have now, rather than bringing us to the same sort of level as they have (never mind being better than them).

HS2 is going to be one of the fastest, most intensively run railways in the world. It very much will be world-class.

 

[editor]

Anti capitalists for the City.

Ignoring your deceitful spin for a moment, you'll have to elaborate on the anti capitalist solution that Brexit is offering. Still you must be pleased for Boris for delivering the brave new future you voted for. Which is what, exactly? I'm still waiting for someone to explain the glorious benefits we'll all be enjoying in return for spunking untold billions down the drain and the empowering of racists and xenophobes.

 

[editor]

Suburban rail in the UK is vastly superior to that in France, in terms of coverage and frequency of trains.

How does the pricing compare?

 

[Flavour]

Not the distillery, but the apocalypse tapestry was fantastic (as was the rest of the castle, and the cathedral too for that matter). I prefered Nantes though, especially the museum which was probably the best museum dedicated to a city that I've ever been in.

Clearly you have never been to Lancaster

Re: HS2 - i highly doubt the trains will be as comfortable and swish as the freccia rossa in Italy. Italy also has a big inferiority complex wrt France though on some things (high speed rail being one, bathrooms being another) they have them soundly beat

E2A even if HS2 somehow is as swanky and cool as freccia rossa i bet the price per mile travelled in the UK will be significantly higher, given that it already is on the slow UK trains. The turin-Milan route, which is roughly equivalent to London-Mancheste, takes 2 hours on the slow train (12 euro fixed price) and 1 hour on the fast train (max price 32 euro if booked on the same day, normally much cheaper if booked in advance)

 

[editor]

It seems it's very first world problems being anticipated. Band visa forms, cross border transportation of dogs to second homes, impoverished stock brokers.

It's more than a 'first world problem' when it's your livelihood. Strange, I thought you of all people would have more support and empathy for struggling musicians and the arts, but here you are lumping them in with 'impoverished stock brokers.'

 

[brogdale]

The sound of bleating will keep us all awake at night for the first week.

Beyond that?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The mid-afternoon break in services was certainly annoying, but coming from a (reasonably populated, at least in Welsh terms) place where the nearest station was an hour's walk to catch an hourly service I must say I've never really thought we had a great coverage or frequency of trains.

It depends where you are in the UK. SE England is well connected. Wales isn't.

 

[SpookyFrank]

HS2 is going to be one of the fastest, most intensively run railways in the world. It very much will be world-class.

And I'm sure our great great great great grandkids will have a grand old time travelling in such luxury between two cities which will, by then, both be in the sea.

 

[The39thStep]

I mostly regret not staying, to be honest.

 

[mauvais]

What are you trying to achieve here?

 

[TopCat]

Fuck me. Education exchange opportunites are just an elite concern? How the fuck did you get to such a stupid place?

Lack of University education.

 

[TopCat]

Ignoring your deceitful spin for a moment, you'll have to elaborate on the anti capitalist solution that Brexit is offering. Still you must be pleased for Boris for delivering the brave new future you voted for. Which is what, exactly? I'm still waiting for someone to explain the glorious benefits we'll all be enjoying in return for spunking untold billions down the drain and the empowering of racists and xenophobes.

You are spinning in this post so fast your bowler hat has fallen off.

Going to organise a Support The City event?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You are spinning in this post so fast your bowler hat has fallen off.

Going to organise a Support The City event?

You appear to be in the middle of a Support The Tories mission yourself. Your response to the end of Erasmus for the UK was some irrelevant story about your son arranging his own study in Canada. Reminded me of Kenneth Clarke, whose response when Education Minister to a question about student hardship in the face of the latest grant cut was that students are a resourceful lot.

Well done. You are now a Tory.

 

[TopCat]

You appear to be in the middle of a Support The Tories mission yourself. Your response to the end of Erasmus for the UK was some irrelevant story about your son arranging his own study in Canada. Reminded me of Kenneth Clarke, whose response when Education Minister to a question about student hardship in the face of the latest grant cut was that students are a resourceful lot.

Well done. You are now a Tory.

I thought editor went peak remoaner earlier but you have soared above him.

 

[TopCat]

Please, more talk of delayed wine imports and the lack of the Euro arrest warrant.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You don't have any reply, though, do you? So you're reduced to belittling the concerns of others or pretending that it's all just about middle class wankers who deserve to lose out.

 

[Flavour]

I think we're all a little guilty of falling into a culture wars trap with brexit and all this bullshit about EU membership being the best thing that ever happened or conversely a complete waste of time has very adequately distracted comrades who largely agree on a wide range of issues from making any progress, at all, regarding those issues. It is often thoroughly depressing to read this thread.

 

[not-bono-ever]

3rd fuck it of the day

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

How does the pricing compare?

Generally cheaper, but they are catching up with the U.K.’s rip off levels.