The Ashes 2009
- Thread starter Santino
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Yep. Still, at least he didn't lose his off-stump shouldering arms this time.
TrippyLondoner
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Heh
Freds done more than KP this series. highest score. More wickets.(obviously)
gabi is clearly the missing man in the england bowling attack
I only quoted his test average
TrippyLondoner
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broad 2 wickets 
i truly am shocked
i truly am shockedI'll do that to North then: 50.00.I only quoted his test average
TrippyLondoner
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gabi has some magic power than can even turn broad into a good bowler
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Heh
You need to look beyond the headline stats. As with Hussey, average 53 but a man in a two-year-long, I would say terminal, slump.
Flintoff got away to a Broad-like start to his test career, averaging over 40 with the ball and under 20 with the bat after his first 15-20 tests. His stats since then make much better reading.
paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
Heh
WG Grace's stas are comparatively poor, but no-one would say he wasn't a legend of the game for match-winning performances (and sledging and cheating).. it's as much about enjoying the way someone plays
TrippyLondoner
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also, no one can deny flintoffs influence on the team, KP to, but flintoff more so especially when bowling.
Did you see the stat in the guardian this morning? England win more without Fred than with him.
44% win without fred
38% with fred
Probably because most of the time he's played the past few years he's played half-fit.
TrippyLondoner
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Not a big difference. Did you seem him take those 5 wickets at lords that helped us win the test to take us 1-0 up btw?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
yes, I've seen that. He's missed nearly all England's tests against Bangladesh, though, which skews the stats somewhat. Again, you have to delve deeper to see the true value of stats.
TrippyLondoner
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true.
TrippyLondoner
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was that england or austrailia who got that 'many'?
Corax
Luke 5:16
Lies, damned lies and...
Most got by Aussies probably.
Sometimes stats don't lie. His personal stats are ordinary by any standard. 30 odd with the bat and 40 odd with the ball. I think scott styris can probably beat that
He's got a hold over the english public though, which is fair enough. I think its the boozing that people relate to. hell even i can relate to that. btw, one day I'll share with you all my role in the fredalo incident. ahhh.. st lucia... good memories.
King Biscuit Time
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Well it there must have been at least 11 wickets from both of the teams (assuming no declarations).
