Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Was in a meeting this morning with, among others, the branch sec of one of our 'sister' unions at work. Apparently they felt very sorry for Sunak, and thought the music was very unfair and someone should have stopped it.
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Apologies if we've already covered this since (got a lot of pages to catch up on!), but occurred to me earlier: might a reason for holding it outside with the lectern be because the briefing room has govt. logos that can't be easily removed, meaning Sunak wouldn't have been able to include any campaigning in the announcement.
I'm not saying it would prove to be a good reason, just wondering if that might have played into the decision.
<edit: following a very cursory Google (which yes, probably could have been done before posting), it looks like no, there is no immovable branding that would have caused such a (non-)constitutional issue. As you were>
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
I have seen the suggestion somewhere that using a government building for a party event is not allowed (other than the sort of government owned building that can be hired by an outside organisation)
I'm not involved so don't know the precise rules
skyscraper101
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It comes as no surprise to see Farage on the news, saying the reason for not standing is that 6 weeks is too short a period to be focused on both a local and national campaign, so he's going with the latter, and will be touring the country, and doing media appearances on behalf of Reform.
Slightly surprising is that he's stepping down from his GBN regular show for the duration, although I suspect he'll regularly popping up on there as a guest, so it will probably not hit his earnings.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
I think he has to because of ofcom rules.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I am not sure those rules apply unless you're actually standing as an MP, but maybe they do.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Nice to know someone has survived the past 14 years with a shred of humanity. I just saw a drowning rat.Was in a meeting this morning with, among others, the branch sec of one of our 'sister' unions at work. Apparently they felt very sorry for Sunak, and thought the music was very unfair and someone should have stopped it.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Yeah good point. Not sure if it covers speaking at party events etc.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
The constituency I grew up in is on there!*
Half tempted to offer to stand, and then... christ, I mean the opportunities for shenanigans are endless
*well, except it's not, because they changed its name
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
likewise, lewisham east
Half tempted to offer to stand, and then... christ, I mean the opportunities for shenanigans are endless
hmm. it may just be a requirement to be a member of the vermin party.
more seriously, some of them are very safe labour seats so they will either be someone local but enthusiastic, or effectively a 'trainee candidate' role for someone who might get a more winnable seat next time.
but there's a few that look marginal - basildon, wellingborough (isn't that where the recent by-election was) and a few others.
obviously the secret plan was so secret it's left the party in a bit of a mess.
may be entertaining if there's some hurried appointments of candidates then some stuff they posted on social media a few years back comes out...
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
For how long?
"Yeah, up 'till now I've hated everything the party stands for, but I tell you, Rishi's speech really spoke to me. Things really can only get better"
Oh aye, I mean there's a fair bit of precedent on that front, isn't there?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
They must have a suitable candidate for Barking
i think an increasing number of vermin MPs are at least dagenham and a few are completely upminster...
Has anyone alerted Paul Mason yet...?
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I heard today that Nigel Farage will not be a candidate in this election. Just so that everybody knows, I feel compelled to inform the world that I too will not be standing for Reform UK this time around. Even though they have been pestering me for months to do so. I realise this may well be the death knell for Reform UK, but so be it. What finally tipped the balance was when I discovered that they were a bunch of reactionary, xenophobic, climate change deniers with no generosity of spirit, no compassion and a dogmatic nationalist mindset. No proper understanding of history, or economics, or culture or philosophy. Led by dishonest, populist demagogues. What a great shame. Apart from all that our views were almost in alignment. Well, apart from the militarism, flag-waving, anti-European stuff. And a few other matters...
AnandLeo
Tipple Ripple
Why did Prime Minister Rishi Sunak have to get wet making the much-anticipated announcement of the 2024 general election? Is there some kind of protocol that the prime minister has to brave the weather when making a speech at the lectern outside number 10? Someone could have held an umbrella which is an obvious arrangement. I think it is a poor show on everyone's part.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
It’s a metaphor, innit? In Tory land, in adverse conditions you’re on your own, no umbrella of the nanny state to protect you.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
C4N last night reckoned there were 93 Constituency Conservative Associations yet to select a candidate; many of them in safe LP seats, but some with vermin majorities of 20k
Reporters sign-off was that Sunak's surprise election date caught his own party off guard.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Starmer's just been on the 08:10h slot on Today, interviewed by Mishal Husain. He comes across as a man who plans to have a plan, but still doesn't want to elaborate.
Husain put Starmer on the spot over him previously declaring he was in favour of abolishing student tuition fees but more recently backtracking on that, and he stumbled and prevaricated, wouldn't commit to it.
Husain put him on the spot over welcoming Nathalie Elphick into the party but Diane Abbott still being without the whip. She specifically asked him if he wanted Abbott to be a candidate and if the disciplinary process would be concluded in time for her to stand as a candidate. He suggested it would be over in a few days, because deadline for declaring candidates is... 4 June? Which begs the question, if it can be concluded in a few days (if/when politically expedient), why has the disciplinary process dragged on so long.
Starmer also said he supported a Palestinian state but wouldn't commit to recognising Palestine. More wishy-washy bullshit.
Starmer comes across as a man with no principles, someone prepared to say what he thinks the interviewer and audience want to hear. A shifty man on shifting sands. Untrustworthy.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Corbyn has confirmed he'll stand as an independent.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Ooh! Lovely. * waits for exposés/scandals about candidates who haven't been properly vetted due to time constraints *
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