The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[moochedit]

I wonder if we are going to have any surprises in kier Stamers Government?

Yes full communism to be announced tommorow

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Not sure that you are entirely the right person to be lecturing on coping with reality to be perfectly honest

lol! I’m entirely comfortable with electoral reality, not an ideologue.

There were lots of people calling him Tory Blare though, red conservative etc. It was the first election I voted in but I do remember it wasn't all unbridled enthusiasm. Remember many still mauned John Smith and what might have been.

The same stuff was said about Blair back then, it’s a myth he was super popular.

 

[moochedit]

lol! I’m entirely comfortable with electoral reality, not an ideol

The same stuff was said about Blair back then, it’s a myth he was super popular.

I think in 1997 most people just wanted major out.

 

[Petcha]

This is why need PR

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I think in 1997 most people just wanted major out.

Yup

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think in 1997 most people just wanted major out.

Also in 1997, people didn't have the memory of Tony Blair's government to keep them sober about the idea of a centrist Labour govt being any good.

But as mentioned earlier, there was a feeling right from the start of 'if only John Smith hadn't died'. John Smith. A rightwinger but vaguely recognisable as Labour.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Wilf]

Why are they having a levelling up sec? Don't they have the imagination to make up their own stupid departments for the achievement of fuck all.

Seesaw Secretary.

 

[redsquirrel]

Blair had positive popularity ratings for the first part of his prime ministership (is that the term? premiership seems wrong somehow)

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Net-satisfaction-with-Prime-Ministers-1979-2022-Source-Ipsos-Political-Monitor-May_fig1_362237836

 

[Petcha]

Starmer hates Rayner so that must have been between gritted teeth

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Wilf]

Might need to revisit the Reform is the party of youth stuff that was briefly touched upon the other day

'Pre-Gammons'.

 

[Bingoman]

Yvette cooper now home secretary

 

[Kid_Eternity]

 

[Petcha]

Isn't he on record effectively calling Trump a cunt? This'll go well.

edit: checked, he called him a nazi sympathizer

 

[Cid]

Pretty predictable stuff really. 'Unburdened by any doctrine <except maybe continuity austerity>'

 

[Sasaferrato]

No. It’ll be one to watch. An SNP loss, I imagine. (Glasgow North).

Turned out to be Glasgow all.

I've just looked at the Scottish results by constituency. The swing to Labour overall must be circa18%.

The talking corpse held his seat... just.

Perhaps some statistical wizard could tell us what this level of swing in 2026 would mean at Holyrood?

 

[tim]

I wonder if we are going to have any surprises in kier Stamers Government?

David Cameron to stay on as Foreign Secretary?

 

[Wilf]

PLEASE STOP POSTING PICTURES OF THESE TOSSERS!

 

[Petcha]

David Cameron to stay on as Foreign Secretary?

No, its Lammy

 

[redsquirrel]

PLEASE STOP POSTING PICTURES OF THESE TOSSERS!

Indeed posting dick pics is not on. Some of us browse U75 from work

 

[Kid_Eternity]

 

[redsquirrel]

More evidence that Starmer is that type of middle manager boss that everyone considers a cunt

 

[Petcha]

More evidence that Starmer is that type of middle manager boss that everyone considers a cunt

I think the country could use a bit of a middle management boring as fuck government for a while tbf. After the last 5 years of white knuckle mentalness.

 

[tim]

A cabinet of midwives, then.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Christ management guff

 

[Kid_Eternity]

 

[redsquirrel]

I think the country could use a bit of a middle management boring as fuck government for a while tbf. After the last 5 years of white knuckle mentalness.

Yeh you would

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Why are they having a levelling up sec? Don't they have the imagination to make up their own stupid departments for the achievement of fuck all.

not sure.

i know that department names / functions do sometimes get changed, and some departments end up getting created / merged / disbanded, but does that tend to get done on day one of a new government, or do they tend to appoint to the existing department structure then do it a bit later? i can't remember what happened with the 'levelling up' and other cobblers like that.

changing names is relatively easy (although means changing the stationery and so on), changing department structures will involve buildings and staff, so probably isn't an overnight thing.

of course labour may have decided to try and reclaim the 'levelling up' concept and might* even intend to do something positive, rather than 'bash london because londoners elected the wrong colour mayor, and bung money to our chums to do pet projects in marginal seats up north somewhere'

* might. i'll believe it when i see it...