The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[Plumdaff]

I don't quite agree. While it would not in and of itself solve anything it would potentially open up space for political movements with representation that would make fewer people feel disenfranchised by the system. A Spain-style split on the left would be a distinct possibility, and probability imo - under PR, Labour would split.

I think it would rapidly lead to a European style death spiral for Labour along the lines of other ostensibly 'social democratic' parties and while I understand most of what needs to be done is extra parliamentary, PR would be worth it for that alone.

A major fear with FPTP is the death spiral happening anyway, without the possibility of the growth from a party of the left.

 

[xenon]

Blair in 97 was genuinely popular and had a broad manifesto and policy agenda, albeit very centrist. People felt hopeful, and the economy was doing well. He got 43% of the vote share.

Starmer.............

There were lots of people calling him Tory Blare though, red conservative etc. It was the first election I voted in but I do remember it wasn't all unbridled enthusiasm. Remember many still mauned John Smith and what might have been.

 

[A380]

You’d still whine about unfairness and your wasted vote if we had PR and your preferred Sons of Mithras party….

What a load of old bull.

 

[Artaxerxes]

We had a referendum on PR in 2011.
There was a resounding no. 67.9%

We had a referendum on AV which is shit

 

[spitfire]

Just realised Gullis is gone! Happy days!





One for Mordaunt

 

[Lord Camomile]

There were lots of people calling him Tory Blare though, red conservative etc. It was the first election I voted in but I do remember it wasn't all unbridled enthusiasm. Remember many still mauned John Smith and what might have been.

My dad ran out into the street to celebrate Portillo's seat (our constituency) going Labour, but later left the party (not sure exactly when, but some time during Blair) because "they aren't the Labour I signed up to", or something along those lines.

 

[Looby]

Lab win!

Yep. 18 votes in it and our first ever Labour MP.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Sasaferrato will be happy with the Scotland result

Absolutely delighted. Next, Holyrood.

 

[Bingoman]

Wow that it some suit that Angela Rayner is wearing

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Recount in South Basildon and East Thurrock but Refuck ahead in the first count, so probably bad news and them up to five.

Labour take Thurrock - but it's too close to call in South Basildon and East Thurrock and a recount will follow.

 

[Sue]

Good. The job of the BBC World Service should be to discomfort Putin.

Should it? Why?

 

[Wilf]

The total eligible voting base of the UK is something like 50 million, so it's actually 1/5 or so.

Yes, the back of my fag packet says 20.8%. LANDSLIDE!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My dad ran out into the street to celebrate Portillo's seat (our constituency) going Labour, but later left the party (not sure exactly when, but some time during Blair) because "they aren't the Labour I signed up to", or something along those lines.

Starmer's gone one better than Blair. Helpfully, he has alienated poeple like your dad before getting in.

 

[Silas Loom]

Should it? Why?

What useful or justifiable role other than contributing to national security as a propagandist is open to an overseas broadcasting service funded by compulsory domestic subscription?

 

[Cerv]

Starmer's gone one better than Blair. Helpfully, he has alienated poeple like your dad before getting in.

ruthless efficiency we can all get behind

 

[moochedit]

Farage getting heckled on bbc

 

[moochedit]

3 protestors now

 

[cupid_stunt]

Farage is up live, two hecklers already ejected by his bouncers, and a 3rd is being removed!

 

[skyscraper101]

Farage getting heckled on bbc

This is brilliant. A coordinated heckle attack. Love it.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Seriously, fuck off, moochedit.

 

[moochedit]

Common no 4

 

[gentlegreen]

.

 

[moochedit]

7 so far

 

[moochedit]

Seriously, fuck off, moochedit.

Too slow

 

[Silas Loom]

Farage getting heckled on bbc

“More protestors removed than seats he’s won at Westminster” - BBC.

 

[moochedit]

Could get 5 from the recount one

 

[gentlegreen]

So he's playing the "actors" thing both ways...

 

[Sue]

What useful or justifiable role other than contributing to national security as a propagandist is open to an overseas broadcasting service funded by compulsory domestic subscription?

And who gets to choose who's being 'discomforted' and why?

 

[skyscraper101]

What a knob Farage is - he's using "Starmer looked at his speech notes many times" as some sort of criticism.

 

[Silas Loom]

And who gets to choose who's being 'discomforted' and why?

A committee, presumably. I expect that FCDO would be heavily represented but DCMS would insist on having some control.