The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[Lord Camomile]

Living in the SE London Labour heartlands looks like Greens are the second party in every constituency. The 'there's no option but Labour' vote is going to look a lot weaker in future.

Not mine, sadly. Reform were second, with Green a relatively distant 4th +5.8% change (to 8.6%), though, which is mildly encouraging, and passes the ol' "keeps their deposit" threshold (5%, right? ).

 

[rubbershoes]

Steve Baker on the radio saying it's a relief that he lost and admonishing the electorate for putting tory staffers' mortgages at risk

Him and Truss saying the tories lost as they weren't right wing enough

 

[YouSir]

Not mine, sadly. Reform were second, with Green a relatively distant 4th +5.8% change (to 8.6%), though, which is mildly encouraging, and passes the ol' "keeps their deposit" threshold (5%, right? ).

That sounds like a Croydon sort of result, at a guess.

 

[kenny g]

My one thing is that St children should not be involved whatsoever. No one chooses their parents and I respect him for keeping them out of it. Being a politicians child must be a fucking nightmare and I respect him for trying to protect them.

 

[Lord Camomile]

That sounds like a Croydon sort of result, at a guess.

Erith and Thamesmead. New constituency for me due to the boundary changes.

 

[Cid]

Him and Truss saying they lost as they weren't right wing enough

Yep, that is fucking wild. lab on 26% to Truss 25%, Ref 22%. That's another that won't hold unless things are exactly the same again in 5 years. Think my biggest concern is a Tory tack rightward and some kind of deal with Ref. That could be devastating.

Starmer, borrow some fucking money and make things nice you absolute tool.

 

[Lord Camomile]

A guy who was in the other class in my year at primary school beat Reform to fourth for the Greens in my 'home' constituency, though

 

[rubbershoes]

Shitty weather this morning. Tories will think of it as indicative of Starmer's socialist hellhole.

I prefer to think of the rain further depressing all those defeated tory MPs and activists going home

 

[The39thStep]

He’ll be irrelevant in Parliament, he won’t sit on any committees, or get questions, the media will be more interested in the government and then the Tory civil war and whatever idiotic thing a Reform MP has said.

The only benefit Corbyn gets is a very good income to help fund his speaking at protests etc.

Cope

 

[YouSir]

Erith and Thamesmead. New constituency for me due to the boundary changes.

Ah, makes sense

 

[SpookyFrank]

My one thing is that St children should not be involved whatsoever. No one chooses their parents and I respect him for keeping them out of it. Being a politicians child must be a fucking nightmare and I respect him for trying to protect them.

Pity he's not interested in protecting anyone else's children by properly funding education and healthcare.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Shitty weather this morning. Tories will think of it as indicative of Starmer's socialist hellhole.

I had been thinking, I always remembered the day after the '97 election as very sunny, and felt like it reflected the mood in general.

And then, this morning...

 

[cupid_stunt]

The true blue wall in West Sussex, where the Tories held all 8 seats, has been smashed down, it's now 3 Lab., 3 LDs, and just 2 held by the Tories.

*This excludes the new seat of East Grinstead and Uckfield, which is half in both East & West Sussex counties, Tories took that.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's clear that farage is right (we've seen the poll a few days back) that ½ the Labour vote is anti-tory so his conclusion the government will soon be in trouble very likely to be correct. The anti-tory coalition who voted Labour probable to separate from the government in a matter of months. And farage's further view that at the next election after seeing shammer's shitty crew many more people will vote refuk also plausible.

So a twin track strategy imo important now. On the one hand socialists and anarchists must work to undermine the current government, as you might expect, but with new tactics to enthuse people. Taking things to the streets in different ways, looking beyond the traditional procession/assembly to other means of engaging in protest and resistance. Clearly still a place for the public meeting and march but beside these should be the whole panoply of tactics of civil resistance. - there's a great long list in Civil Resistance Tactics in the 21st Century | ICNC. This isn't to suggest other tactics are no longer valid but that novelty needs to be tried to reach out to elements of our communities again.

Obvs not everything has to be planned from scratch, there are plenty of examples from history of all manner of means of building coalitions to oppose shitty governments like shammer's.

Alongside this should be a strategy of making refuk look shitty at every opportunity. I hope the practice, nay tradition, of milkshaking farage continues. But public events they organise should be disrupted, photo ops subverted, letters to remaining local newspapers denounce them and so on.

We've five years to fuck refuk. But need to build a movement too against the current shower

 

[PursuedByBears]

I had been thinking, I always remembered the day after the '97 election as very sunny, and felt like it reflected the mood in general.

And then, this morning...

Sunniest day in ages here in the NW

 

[Lord Camomile]

with new tactics to enthuse people.

I mean, christ, that'd be nice, eh?

Continues to befuddle and bemuse me that 'winning people over' seems to be an almost completely lost art. Not just bellowing your talking points at them, but actually understanding where they are, and showing them a path to where you would like them to be (and, presumably, think it would be better for them to be).

 

[tim]

Yep, that is fucking wild. lab on 26% to Truss 25%, Ref 22%. That's another that won't hold unless things are exactly the same again in 5 years. Think my biggest concern is a Tory tack rightward and some kind of deal with Ref. That could be devastating.

Starmer, borrow some fucking money and make things nice you absolute tool.

Most of the right-wing Tory headbangers have lost their seats,so whilst the membership might want to move right, the MPs will be much less keen. In the South They'll be more scared of the Liberals than Deform.

 

[The39thStep]

It'll be interesting to see if the % of electorate voting Labour is lower than in 2019.

The old KE was a wet centrist but this new incarnation is just a twat

The Mark Goldbridge of politics

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

642/650 declared - any likely interesting stories among the final 8? I'm tired and hungover, it's beyond me to go digging for them.

 

[cupid_stunt]

642/650 declared - any likely interesting stories among the final 8?

643 now.

I'm tired and hungover, it's beyond me to go digging for them.

Me too, just hoping Reform doesn't pick up any more.

 

[JimW]

Sort of good Tice and Farage both got in as they'll be fighting like ferrets in a sack in short order.

 

[cupid_stunt]

B'Ham Perry Barr lost by Labour to pro-Gaza indy.

 

[kenny g]

Nadine do4is

Pity he's not interested in protecting anyone else's children by properly funding education and healthcare.

Mr virtue...

 

[isvicthere?]

Observations: BoJo won an 80 seat majority on 42.4% of the vote. Starmer wins a majority of more than twice that on 35%. The case for PR, which has been compelling for ages, now seems more urgent than ever.

Labour´s vote in England barely changed, and went down in Wales. Only in Scotland, surely an outlier, did it significantly go up.

Pleased about Corbyn, the "no hoper" in 2019 who actually won a higher share of the vote than Starmer has now.

Looking across at France, Netherlands, Germany and Italy, where grubby little populist parties have made disturbing inroads. I´m very concerned about Refuk´s performance.

 

[Thora]

I'm pleased that the Tories have lost my bit of Wiltshire for the first time ever. And Reform didn't do too well either.

 

[Dogsauce]

Whenever notorious cunts (cabinet ministers, loudmouth backbenchers etc) get voted out, there's always a worry that they could get parachuted back in to parliament at the next convenient by-election, but the sheer scale of the number of wankers who have just been voted out means we're unlikely to see many of them ever again. Something to be chirpy about this morning.

Unfortunately the worst of the cunts held onto their seats. Tories will be swinging even further to the right, and like a hypnotised dog Starmer will be following them still desperate to try and prise a few more Tory votes off that would never vote Labour anyway just because of the brand history.

 

[Cid]

Most of the right-wing Tory headbangers have lost their seats,so whilst the membership might want to move right, the MPs will be much less keen. In the South They'll be more scared of the Liberals than Deform.

Yes, I may be being overly pessimistic. Haven't really looked at who remains, just major losses. Buuut... that very right wing vote is just sitting there, and there's 5 years.

 

[gentlegreen]

I'm surprised someone hasn't reworded the D-Ream song to a more appropriate level of optimism.

 

[shifting gears]

Unfortunately the worst of the cunts held onto their seats. Tories will be swinging even further to the right, and like a hypnotised dog Starmer will be following them still desperate to try and prise a few more Tory votes off that would never vote Labour anyway just because of the brand history.

Have they let La Rouge at him already? That’s a baptism of fire

danny la rouge

 

[The39thStep]

17% drop for Starmer. Quite funny.

Value for money