The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[Dogsauce]

Quotes here from Tories suggesting that the Supermajorities claim is cutting through with voters:

Tories cling to hope that wipeout polls are wrong as gallows humour kicks in

Party hopes to limit damage by warning of ‘supermajority’ while thoughts also turn to aftermath of defeat

www.theguardian.com

There is no such thing in this country, Starmer will be able to do what he wants whether he has a majority of 10 or 300. Do they think people are this stupid?

All they are doing is trying to make sure they have enough MPs to retain experience and infrastructure as a political party. If there’s only a handful left then the donations will dry up, their voices won’t be heard, the media infrastructure that had kept them in power countless times when they didn’t deserve to be might fall apart or look elsewhere.

 

[cupid_stunt]

There is no such thing in this country, Starmer will be able to do what he wants whether he has a majority of 10 or 300. Do they think people are this stupid?

That's not completely true, as demonstrated by the May government, with a small majority it can be very hard to do things, as it only takes a few 'rebels' to abstain or vote against their party to prevent legalisation passing.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's not completely true, as demonstrated by the May government, with a small majority it can be very hard to do things, as it only takes a few 'rebels' to abstain or vote against their party to prevent legalisation passing.

Any shammer government will only have a few rebels given the way the party is no longer the broad church it was

 

[A380]

Any shammer government will only have a few rebels given the way the party is no longer the broad church it was

You will look pretty silly when he nationalises the banks and top 200 monopolies next Tuesday and abolishes the royal family by Friday…

 

[The39thStep]

You will look pretty silly when he nationalises the banks and top 200 monopolies next Tuesday and abolishes the royal family by Friday…

and when Starmer and Reeves take off their masks revealing themselves as Peter Taffe and Derrick Hatton

 

[A380]

and when Starmer and Reeves take off their masks revealing themselves as Peter Taffe and Derrick Hatton

Glad you caught the reference…

 

[The39thStep]

Glad you caught the reference…

Sharp as a needle me .

 

[Pickman's model]

You will look pretty silly when he nationalises the banks and top 200 monopolies next Tuesday and abolishes the royal family by Friday…

He'll be hard pushed to nationalise anything before next Thursday. And as for abolishing the royal family he's more likely to rim them than remove them

 

[A380]

He'll be hard pushed to nationalise anything before next Thursday.

According to the Telegraph there is a risk of a Labour majority so big it actually warps the space time continuum…

 

[Pickman's model]

According to the Telegraph there is a risk of a Labour majority so big it actually warps the space time continuum…

Yes, after next Thursday. But not before.

 

[A380]

Yes, after next Thursday. But not before.

Star Trots.

 

[Karl Masks]

In a surprise to no one...



(i came across this channel as it covered a lot of Gaza stuff and the reaction of British politicians, Unfortunately it's turned out to be pretty pro Galloway).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

In a surprise to no one...



(i came across this channel as it covered a lot of Gaza stuff and the reaction of British politicians, Unfortunately it's turned out to be pretty pro Galloway).

Two faces of the same arse.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

That's not completely true, as demonstrated by the May government, with a small majority it can be very hard to do things, as it only takes a few 'rebels' to abstain or vote against their party to prevent legalisation passing.

Indeed, Starmer is going to be insulated from any rebelling for at least the next parliamentary term if at a, given the reduction in left MPs I doubt it’ll be a problem with the next Parliament…

 

[lazythursday]

Indeed, Starmer is going to be insulated from any rebelling for at least the next parliamentary term if at a, given the reduction in left MPs I doubt it’ll be a problem with the next Parliament…

Apparently a big majority doesn't always make for a united party, because there ends up being such a large pool of backbenchers with no prospect of a government position (the carrot that whips often use) that they can become independent minded and hard to control.

 

[MickiQ]

You will look pretty silly when he nationalises the banks and top 200 monopolies next Tuesday and abolishes the royal family by Friday…

Bring it on

 

[ska invita]

Apparently a big majority doesn't always make for a united party, because there ends up being such a large pool of backbenchers with no prospect of a government position (the carrot that whips often use) that they can become independent minded and hard to control.

But not this time as Starmlin has purged the dissenters

 

[Dog_Voodoo]

A Reform UK election candidate has disowned the party and is instead backing the local Conservative candidate.

Reform UK candidate switches support to Tories over racism row

Liam Booth-Isherwood ditches his campaign citing "reports of racism" in the party.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The39thStep]

But not this time as Starmlin has purged the dissenters

Absolutely. They’ve recruited a load of candidates that know that they have been ‘selected’ on the principle that they just make up the numbers and are lobby fodder . Not an original idea or dissenting voice between the lot .

 

[Kid_Eternity]

This would have NEVER happened under Corbyn.

 

[Pickman's model]

This would have NEVER happened under Corbyn.

You're like philosophical except without his good humour and charm

 

[Elpenor]

So how will Starmer deal with the challenges of high office, he can’t purge NHS waiting lists, child poverty, the housing crisis like he can left wing MPs

 

[Pickman's model]

So how will Starmer deal with the challenges of high office, he can’t purge NHS waiting lists, child poverty, the housing crisis like he can left wing MPs

No but he can get the definitions changed for eg what counts as poverty, being on an nhs waiting list etc

 

[bluescreen]

Apparently a big majority doesn't always make for a united party, because there ends up being such a large pool of backbenchers with no prospect of a government position (the carrot that whips often use) that they can become independent minded and hard to control.

Well, Starmer is going to need opposition from his back benches because he won't be getting much effective opposition from anywhere else.

 

[Benjamin F]

Well, Starmer is going to need opposition from his back benches because he won't be getting much effective opposition from anywhere else.

An unusually optimistic thought, but maybe effective opposition will come from the workplaces and the streets?

 

[bluescreen]

An unusually optimistic thought, but maybe effective opposition will come from the workplaces and the streets?

I imagine there will be; I was thinking of parliamentary opposition as if that counts for anything.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

So how will Starmer deal with the challenges of high office, he can’t purge NHS waiting lists, child poverty, the housing crisis like he can left wing MPs

He’ll raise taxes and push the money into public services, while nationalising some key ones to raise performance and reduce cost.

 

[andysays]

He’ll raise taxes and push the money into public services, while nationalising some key ones to raise performance and reduce cost.

Sounds suspiciously like what Corbyn was suggesting...

 

[Pickman's model]

An unusually optimistic thought, but maybe effective opposition will come from the workplaces and the streets?

Like west germany in the 1960s

 

[Artaxerxes]

He’ll raise taxes and push the money into public services, while nationalising some key ones to raise performance and reduce cost.

Don’t forget PFI