The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[redsquirrel]

You mean apart from the dullard Starmer getting the levers of power to change shit, and the exciting Corbyn, err... not?

One is activity, and the other is achievement.

Corbyn built a really big fan club. Like 1D, or the Spice Girls.

What would be hilarious is if Starmer gets less votes than Corbyn, while getting a 100+ seat majority.

What is the 'achievement' of getting into power if you use that power to harm people?

 

[Serge Forward]

"How?"

Probably gunboats

 

[The39thStep]

Any sentence that has 'Starmer/ leavers of power/ change' in it surely has been taken out of the racy part of a Paul Mason novel?

 

[likesfish]

I'd rather are judges are appointed by professionals than the shit show they have in the states where blatently partisan judges take holidays off billionaires

 

[Pickman's model]

The Lord Chancellor, which is a political role

Quite so. So, Hotel Chocolate, why are you ok with a politician picking judges but not the public?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'd rather are judges are appointed by professionals than the shit show they have in the states where blatently partisan judges take holidays off billionaires

That is a situation that can be remedied, it doesn't have to be that way. But supreme court judges in the USA aren't elected.

 

[Pickman's model]

Any sentence that has 'Starmer/ leavers of power/ change' in it surely has been taken out of the racy part of a Paul Mason novel?

The two sentences that are slightly less plodding and pedestrian than the rest of the book.

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

Quite so. So, Hotel Chocolate, why are you ok with a politician picking judges but not the public?

Well, from what I've seen in America I think it's a bad idea.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, from what I've seen in America I think it's a bad idea.

What have you seen in America?

 

[The39thStep]

What have you seen in America?

The Big Rock Candy Mountains?

 

[Wilf]

Just started watching Question Time and it's Ed Davey up first. The audience already look bored. They'll be comatose when the Sunak/Starmer hybrid are up.

 

[Dog_Voodoo]

Just started watching Question Time and it's Ed Davey up first. The audience already look bored. They'll be comatose when the Sunak/Starmer hybrid are up.

I’m also watching it.
No idea why. I’m bored already.

 

[MickiQ]

Just started watching Question Time and it's Ed Davey up first. The audience already look bored. They'll be comatose when the Sunak/Starmer hybrid are up.

They'll be laughing when he takes the custard pie to the face and falls out of his seat.

 

[Sue]

Just started watching Question Time and it's Ed Davey up first. The audience already look bored. They'll be comatose when the Sunak/Starmer hybrid are up.

I’m also watching it.
No idea why. I’m bored already.

Thank you for your service.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

That’s a terrible idea. Look how badly directly-elected officials operate in the US.

What's your problem with other people?

More democracy not less, everywhere all the time; let's really look at each other and recognise that we are all the same stuff, and of equal value, so we should all be in the room...if we choose to be.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Wilf]

Thank you for your service.

I'm just about to head off to Avebury, so it will be a full evening of people with strange beliefs.

 

[Silas Loom]

What's your problem with other people?

More democracy not less, everywhere all the time; let's really look at each other and recognise that we are all the same stuff, and of equal value, so we should all be in the room...if we choose to be.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Llanfair, c’est les autres.

 

[strung out]

What's your problem with other people?

More democracy not less, everywhere all the time; let's really look at each other and recognise that we are all the same stuff, and of equal value, so we should all be in the room...if we choose to be.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Went well with Brexit.

 

[Dog_Voodoo]

Question time update.
Lib Dem dude trying to justifying his and his parties existence.
Been grilled on the fact he wouldn’t meet Allen Bate’s.

 

[Chz]

What's your problem with other people?

More democracy not less, everywhere all the time; let's really look at each other and recognise that we are all the same stuff, and of equal value, so we should all be in the room...if we choose to be.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

The Swiss have referendums on everything, which is as democratic as it gets really. And it's directly responsible for the national shame that is having given women the vote in 1971. Democracy for democracy's sake is a laudable goal, but it has a habit of not working out the way the people in favour of it expect it to. I'm not against getting the public involved in principle, but I do think it needs to be carefully thought out first or the results can be unpredictable. And yes, sheriffs and judges in the US is a good example of that. It turns the local justice system, which should be blind, into a political animal. Far from making everyone equal, it encourages a political class with the funding reserves to run campaigns to be in charge of everything. (I do not have any proposed solutions for that, unfortunately)

 

[Pickman's model]

The Swiss have referendums on everything, which is as democratic as it gets really. And it's directly responsible for the national shame that is having given women the vote in 1971. Democracy for democracy's sake is a laudable goal, but it has a habit of not working out the way the people in favour of it expect it to. I'm not against getting the public involved in principle, but I do think it needs to be carefully thought out first or the results can be unpredictable. And yes, sheriffs and judges in the US is a good example of that. It turns the local justice system, which should be blind, into a political animal. Far from making everyone equal, it encourages a political class with the funding reserves to run campaigns to be in charge of everything. (I do not have any proposed solutions for that, unfortunately)

Why do you only want predictable results? And it's obvious that the police, who derived their name from the Greek word for state, are always going to be political. Criminal justice is political. I don't believe you've thought through the way laws are created and enforced, which it shouldn't surprise you to find is political.

 

[xenon]

DeMarchi. Could it work. tune in next century to find out.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Keith is doing my head in. Getting NHS waiting lists down seems to depend on staff being willing to work even longer hours. Not much resistance in the audience, but I can't believe most staff would agree to that.

 

[Pickman's model]

Keith is doing my head in. Getting NHS waiting lists down seems to depend on staff being willing to work even longer hours. Not much resistance in the audience, but I can't believe most staff would agree to that.

Will mps work longer hours? Or is it just for the little people?

 

[Dogsauce]

haha i'm no data analyst but thats not one twat sticking £50 on

Well, the Labour Party did say they were monitoring the odds. Bet a few doing that had a flutter as well once they saw the odds moving.

 

[neonwilderness]

Keith is doing my head in

I might have missed it, but I don’t think he has mentioned that his dad was a toolmaker yet

 

[PTK]

The Big Rock Candy Mountains?

The Great Western Pancake

 

[Pickman's model]

I might have missed it, but I don’t think he has mentioned that his dad was a toolmaker yet

He's saving it up

 

[redsquirrel]

Democracy too important to be left to the people

 

[Ax^]

army working with young people to make it more appealing

not sure the american army "america fuck yeah'

is going to work as well in the uk