Favelado
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Further to earlier reply, it turns out Aguirre LIVES in Malasaña. I can't believe it, I would have bet 100 litres of Don Simon Sangria that she lived in Barrio Salamanca.
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Further to earlier reply, it turns out Aguirre LIVES in Malasaña. I can't believe it, I would have bet 100 litres of Don Simon Sangria that she lived in Barrio Salamanca.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Well, define Malasaña. Technically Calle Genova is in Malasaña... I could well see her living in the East/North parts of the neighbourhood.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
She lives in Calle Jesús del Valle. Proper staggering out of Vía Láctea at 6am Malasaña!
Genova is Chamberi anyway.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Chamberi?! Chamberi's not a thing. The West End of Genova comes out at Plaza Santa Barbara - that's Malasaña for me...
That's creepy about Calle Jesus del Valle though, I must have passed her apartment a thousand times and not thrown anything
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamberí
It is a thing! It's as famous as anywhere else in Madrid. Don't you remember going through the abandoned Chamberí station on Line One all the time?
I honestly can't imagine Aguirre enjoying living there. She should be with all her pijo mates. I could graffiti up her building with anti-Thatch messages.
It is a thing! It's as famous as anywhere else in Madrid. Don't you remember going through the abandoned Chamberí station on Line One all the time?
I honestly can't imagine Aguirre enjoying living there. She should be with all her pijo mates. I could graffiti up her building with anti-Thatch messages.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Nah, not having that. In all my time in Madrid never heard anyone reference Chamberi. Never a "shop/bar/flat in Chamberi", even though I worked round next to Plaza Colon. People always either referenced the metro station or it was Salamanca until it became Malasaña.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
is plaza colon a bit crappy?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
A bit. It's just concrete, with a huge weird concrete block thing dedicated to Colombus' voyage, and a huge Spanish flag. It's where Nazi groups habitually hold their demos.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Everyone in the whole city talks about Chamberí. You might as well say Islington doesn't exist. All of that bit up from Bilbao and a few stops along on Line 1 is usually referred to as Chamberí. You can disagree but you're in a minority of 1.
What's north of Malasaña in your opinion then? It's not Salamanca is it? Because that's east of Colon.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I dunno... err... stuff.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
PP are firmly in control of much of Spain's local government. However, the collapse in the bi-partisan share of the vote means that they are due to lose control of large numbers of councils in 9 months' time.
What's the answer? Why, push through a new law in the space of a few months, overhauling the electoral system so that you'll still be the winners of course! PP at their anti-democratic worst.
http://www.publico.es/politica/5325...icipal-la-reforma-electoral-que-propone-el-pp
What's the answer? Why, push through a new law in the space of a few months, overhauling the electoral system so that you'll still be the winners of course! PP at their anti-democratic worst.
http://www.publico.es/politica/5325...icipal-la-reforma-electoral-que-propone-el-pp
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Dear Lazy Llama I think that there are a few of us that would like to keep a general Spanish politics thread. Would someone be able to change the name of this one to "Spanish Political News"?
Thank you for you time and consideration in advance.
Thank you for you time and consideration in advance.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Imagine if Maduro came out with this, the likes of the PP would be calling it a coup!
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
That's true. PP's anti-democratic credentials are there for all to see. I think that these kind of policies are shoring up their core vote but alienating a lot of their more modern voters.
There are two things I like about PP really. One is that they are a broad enough church to keep the enemy bound up in one identifiable place. The fact they are so right wing is often disturbing, but at the same time there has been no explosion of a Golden Dawn style party in post-crisis Spain. Riklet wisely pointed out to me that the legacy of the Civil War is still probably a factor in this too, but I think it could be a combination of both factors.
The other thing I like about PP is that they are incompetent and everyone can see it.
With regards to Venezuela, the combined anti-Podemos smear campaign is throwing this mud and it's going to stick, although most of what is being said is fantasy at this stage. It's just a question of how much potential Podemos voters care. With the dividing lines that historically run through Spanish society, I reiterate that I would like to see more Uruguay and less Venezuela in Iberia. A form of socialism/social democracy that PSOE are not interested in providing, but one that doesn't turn the country against itself.
Fucking hell, good luck with that Pablo. Not easy.
I'm supporting IU until we see what Podemos looks like 6 months from now.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Done - better if you use the "report" function for this as then it gets seen by all the mods, rather than just one who's out getting pissed on the Southbank
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Done - better if you use the "report" function for this as then it gets seen by all the mods, rather than just one who's out getting pissed on the Southbank
Yeah, I didn't know if it was more or less annoying to send a message to all of them.
Thanks for your trouble.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Good stuff J Ed.
But what I really want to say, now this is a general politics thread, is do we have an Urban consensus on Podemos yet? What do we think of them?
But what I really want to say, now this is a general politics thread, is do we have an Urban consensus on Podemos yet? What do we think of them?
J Ed
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I continue to be amazed by both the integrity and media savvy of Podemos, even the right-wing papers are having to report on Pablo Iglesias' Mujica-like spending habits including the fact that he took the bus part of the way to Strasbourg rather than flying directly and is flat sharing there with two other MEPs.
Also, worth remembering that Pablo is donating 75% of his MEP salary to La Tuerka.
BTW this interview with Monedero from Monday caught my eye. Monedero says that, as the polls are beginning to hint may well be one day that the case, Podemos are fighting to win outright which it seems to me is exactly the attitude which the party has to take to have any chance of becoming the official opposition.
Also, worth remembering that Pablo is donating 75% of his MEP salary to La Tuerka.
BTW this interview with Monedero from Monday caught my eye. Monedero says that, as the polls are beginning to hint may well be one day that the case, Podemos are fighting to win outright which it seems to me is exactly the attitude which the party has to take to have any chance of becoming the official opposition.
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Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Iglesias is taking legal action against Aguirre to obtain a public retraction and apology. It's official. He's opted not to go down the route of suing her for defamation.
http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2014/07/09/53bd34a4268e3e705a8b4589.html
It'll be so satisfying if she has to do it. Horrible person.
http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2014/07/09/53bd34a4268e3e705a8b4589.html
It'll be so satisfying if she has to do it. Horrible person.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
They are so embryonic that we are not in a position to say exactly what they are yet. There is a co-ordinated smear campaign in place against them from all sides, which is to be expected when taking on vested interests. However, the smears not only serve their intended purpose but make more sensible scrutiny pretty much impossible. You either believe them or the black propaganda against them. It would be great to see rational observation of them in the media. I'm not aware of it existing at present.
What Podemos will look like in a year from now is difficult to say, but they are a fascinating phenomenon and you don't get 1.2 million votes in three months if you're not onto something.
J Ed
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You only have to look at who the people throwing shit at them are to know that they are a force to get behind and support IMO. For those who missed it before, here is their translated manifesto http://hiredknaves.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/podemos-translated-manifesto/
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Podemos raised money online to to take action against Aguirre. They needed a few hundred euros but an enthusiastic public donated 10,000 in just a few hours.
Just to give you an idea of the balls that Espe has, she has now demanded that the surplus money be donated to ETA's victims, to prove that Iglesias is against ETA. Bare-faced cheek but what would you expect?
http://www.publico.es/politica/5331...s-victimas-para-demostrar-que-esta-contra-eta
e2a Podemos asked for 10,000 and raised 17,000. It is Aguirre who is claiming that they only need 600. See! This smear stuff works.
Just to give you an idea of the balls that Espe has, she has now demanded that the surplus money be donated to ETA's victims, to prove that Iglesias is against ETA. Bare-faced cheek but what would you expect?
http://www.publico.es/politica/5331...s-victimas-para-demostrar-que-esta-contra-eta
e2a Podemos asked for 10,000 and raised 17,000. It is Aguirre who is claiming that they only need 600. See! This smear stuff works.
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Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Just got this. Only took a week.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
There are pills that can speed that process up.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
A very funny column taking the piss out of Esperanza Agurre from today's edition of the newspaper Publico. I have translated it into English, with one or two imperfections, but well enough that everyone can get an idea of this thoroughly objectionable person.
http://blogs.publico.es/davidtorres/2014/07/11/aguirre-privatiza-eta/
AGUIRRE PRIVATISES ETA
11th July 2014
It’s lucky that Esperanza Aguirre has abandoned politics, because if she was still actively involved in it, we wouldn’t talk about anything else. In fact, even when she’s she taking a holiday, she makes it difficult to ignore her. The sections of the big-circulation newspapers are diverse; International, National, Economy, Politics, Culture, Sport and Aguirre. Sometimes it’s the last of these that occupies more space than all of the others put together. That’s because this good lady surpasses the normal barriers of the here and now, in the same way that she thwarts notions of classification and number. She’s had so many posts and titles that nobody now knows if there’s just one Esperanza, or a few of her.
Aguirre should go around with Bankia sponsorship on her back, in the same way that Fernando Alonso is sponsored by Santander. If she absorbs all of the information around her like a black hole, it’s because a news-story such as the one of her broad daylight smash-and-grab in Gran Vía, complete as it was with the running-over of a policeman, belongs to Politics, Events, Motoring, and Shows all at the same time. Later, when explaining said event, it seemed as if she was doing the opening of San Isidro (a Madrid festival) somewhat late, or the opening of Gay Pride, somewhat early. Many of her admirers feel that she should be included in Madrid’s flag, between the bear and the madroño tree, but with an electric fence between them. It would be ideal if she ever fancied decorating the living-room with the rug and drinks cabinet.
About a month ago she managed to grab all of the headlines with this incident, in which it was shown that in Spain, as in imperial Rome, that are two types of citizens: Aguirre first, the rest of the PP second. The rest of us are just plebs, including the police. In fact, when the naïve officer went over to warn her, Aguirre decided to throw the car into reverse and then drove off, “inviting” him to follow her to her house to hand out the fine with tea and petit-fours. He caught her in a good mood, the poor bloke was lucky that she didn’t call up all of the PP Driving School, from Carromero to Nacho Uriarte, to give him a going over.
Nobody understood that the real news bombshell here wasn’t that Margaret Thatcher’s advantaged disciple managed to do a victory lap of the police, nor that she managed to cause traffic jams in the Callao area for a full 15 minutes. No, the most amazing thing here is that this all happened because she had stopped to take money out of a cash machine as a normal person would.
Now Esperanza is getting angry because Pablo Iglesias is stealing her lead role without being a count nor any other type of important person in Spain, not even his own television, substitute president, coiffured ponytail, style, highlights, or hairspray. Her ego is so huge that when she got caught up in the Mumbai terrorist attacks, she probably thought they had been carried out by ETA, specifically going after her on Ryanair. She considered the whole event more or less the same as she had the Atocha terrorist attacks, just with Indians instead of muslims. If she’s as consistent as it seems, everytime Telemadrid show Apocalypse Now, when they get to the helicopter scene, she probably turns the sound off and swaps Ride of the Valkyries for a chotis (Madrid folk song) at full blast.
After seeing the sixth or seventh front page plastered with this Podemos upstart, Ms. Aguirre wasn’t able to hold back any longer and has called him “ETA terrorist”, seeing as calling him pro-Castro and friend of Venezuela was already a little passé, as well as her not being one for wearing second-hand clothes. The lawsuit will be brought to her outdoors, because if Gallardón (PP politician) privatises the civil registry, she will personally privatise Madrid’s courts in Plaza Castilla. With regards to using the money she insists Pablo Iglesias should hand over to ETA victims, it’s easy to figure out who she means; she’s talking about herself! She’s going to take full advantage of the situation to arrange for another collection, because as she once said herself, what she makes from politics doesn’t even pay for the hairdresser’s tip.
http://blogs.publico.es/davidtorres/2014/07/11/aguirre-privatiza-eta/
AGUIRRE PRIVATISES ETA
11th July 2014
It’s lucky that Esperanza Aguirre has abandoned politics, because if she was still actively involved in it, we wouldn’t talk about anything else. In fact, even when she’s she taking a holiday, she makes it difficult to ignore her. The sections of the big-circulation newspapers are diverse; International, National, Economy, Politics, Culture, Sport and Aguirre. Sometimes it’s the last of these that occupies more space than all of the others put together. That’s because this good lady surpasses the normal barriers of the here and now, in the same way that she thwarts notions of classification and number. She’s had so many posts and titles that nobody now knows if there’s just one Esperanza, or a few of her.
Aguirre should go around with Bankia sponsorship on her back, in the same way that Fernando Alonso is sponsored by Santander. If she absorbs all of the information around her like a black hole, it’s because a news-story such as the one of her broad daylight smash-and-grab in Gran Vía, complete as it was with the running-over of a policeman, belongs to Politics, Events, Motoring, and Shows all at the same time. Later, when explaining said event, it seemed as if she was doing the opening of San Isidro (a Madrid festival) somewhat late, or the opening of Gay Pride, somewhat early. Many of her admirers feel that she should be included in Madrid’s flag, between the bear and the madroño tree, but with an electric fence between them. It would be ideal if she ever fancied decorating the living-room with the rug and drinks cabinet.
About a month ago she managed to grab all of the headlines with this incident, in which it was shown that in Spain, as in imperial Rome, that are two types of citizens: Aguirre first, the rest of the PP second. The rest of us are just plebs, including the police. In fact, when the naïve officer went over to warn her, Aguirre decided to throw the car into reverse and then drove off, “inviting” him to follow her to her house to hand out the fine with tea and petit-fours. He caught her in a good mood, the poor bloke was lucky that she didn’t call up all of the PP Driving School, from Carromero to Nacho Uriarte, to give him a going over.
Nobody understood that the real news bombshell here wasn’t that Margaret Thatcher’s advantaged disciple managed to do a victory lap of the police, nor that she managed to cause traffic jams in the Callao area for a full 15 minutes. No, the most amazing thing here is that this all happened because she had stopped to take money out of a cash machine as a normal person would.
Now Esperanza is getting angry because Pablo Iglesias is stealing her lead role without being a count nor any other type of important person in Spain, not even his own television, substitute president, coiffured ponytail, style, highlights, or hairspray. Her ego is so huge that when she got caught up in the Mumbai terrorist attacks, she probably thought they had been carried out by ETA, specifically going after her on Ryanair. She considered the whole event more or less the same as she had the Atocha terrorist attacks, just with Indians instead of muslims. If she’s as consistent as it seems, everytime Telemadrid show Apocalypse Now, when they get to the helicopter scene, she probably turns the sound off and swaps Ride of the Valkyries for a chotis (Madrid folk song) at full blast.
After seeing the sixth or seventh front page plastered with this Podemos upstart, Ms. Aguirre wasn’t able to hold back any longer and has called him “ETA terrorist”, seeing as calling him pro-Castro and friend of Venezuela was already a little passé, as well as her not being one for wearing second-hand clothes. The lawsuit will be brought to her outdoors, because if Gallardón (PP politician) privatises the civil registry, she will personally privatise Madrid’s courts in Plaza Castilla. With regards to using the money she insists Pablo Iglesias should hand over to ETA victims, it’s easy to figure out who she means; she’s talking about herself! She’s going to take full advantage of the situation to arrange for another collection, because as she once said herself, what she makes from politics doesn’t even pay for the hairdresser’s tip.
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'Yes he can!' How Spanish indignado Pablo Iglesias aims to use a wave of protest to build 'a decent country'
Podemos came out of nowhere to win 1.2 million votes. Pablo Iglesias talks of his hopes for the leftwing fledgling party
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ndignado-podemos-spain?guni=Keyword:news-grid main-1 Main trailblock:Editable trailblock - newsosition5
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