Single mums ‘should not be acceptable’ says Shaun Bailey, Tory Mayor of London candidate

[Pickman's model]

I don't think their sense of humour is that well-developed.

vestigial

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It appears to me that the tories have basically had a look at the clusterfuck which was Goldsmith's campaign last time out and decided being obviously racist wasn't appealing to voters. To counter it this time they've fielded a black candidate just so they can't be accused of the same again. It really appears to be that wafer thin.

Either that or they know they've lost London anyway and they're having a giggle.

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

 

[Teaboy]

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

It certainly seems that the cupboard was bare this time around for candidates. I'd never even heard of the guy before his candidacy was announced.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It certainly seems that the cupboard was bare this time around for candidates. I'd never even heard of the guy before his candidacy was announced.

I vaguely remembered the name but only because like skyscraper101 I was in Hammersmith when he was the candidate. I don't remember any of this stuff coming out then but it didn't really need to because it was such a rubbish campaign.

 

[Pickman's model]

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

it was either that or call up john major

 

[SpookyFrank]

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

I strongly suspect this guy is actually the least worst option they have. Look at some of the dreck they've got on the government front bench ffs. If there's any brains or talent or even basic decency in their party they've been hiding it extremely well.

 

[Rebelda]

Could someone let this fella know that I'm utterly unacceptable and everyone loves it. Now what

 

[Teaboy]

... Now what

Well if its anything like the last mayoral election we'll get so fucked off with the tory we actually end up voting for Khan. Grimness squared.

 

[LeytonCatLady]

On the positive side, he's showing what a twat he is prior to being elected. This "single-mother-getting-pregnant-to-get-a-house" myth is kind of a cliche.

As a child of divorce myself, raising kids is fucking hard. Even if your kids are the best-behaved in the world and even if you've got a partner to support you and share the load. Relatively speaking, me and my siblings gave our mum an easy time but we weren't perfect. Mum cleans for a living and is always on her feet but she still says she liked going to work as it gave her a rest from us! Whereas being a parent is 24/7. No holidays, no rest breaks.

Even if this "getting-pregnant-for-a-house" theory did have any truth to it, why would anyone think that being legally responsible for another human being for AT LEAST 16 years is the easy life compared with a paid job you don't have to worry about for more than 35 hours a week? This to me would be proof that society is still pressuring girls and young women into motherhood, regardless of whether or not they're suited to it; and telling us that even in 2018, having a baby is how females get ahead. And if so, this is what we should be concerned about, rather than pointing fingers at "welfare mums".

 

[Streathamite]

More: Conservative mayor candidate Shaun Bailey: Condoms 'normalise sex' and push young people into crime

Note: he wrote this when he was THIRTY FIVE.
It was not a result of youthful immaturity

 

[Puddy_Tat]

It was not a result of youthful immaturity

that's a matter of opinion. 35 is considered youthful in the conservative party

 

[Streathamite]

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

the last, I would say. Short of Justine Greening realising Putney is a lost cause next time and switching to run for Mayor, they really don't have any other even slightly plausible option.

 

[LeytonCatLady]

that's a matter of opinion. 35 is considered youthful in the conservative party

Oh yes, I agree 35 is young by today's standards, but not a kid. He'd still had enough life experience to know that's not practical. I took Streathamite's comment to mean the MP was an experienced, professional politician rather than some 19-year-old shooting his mouth off to impress, at the time of making the comment. Still twattish of Bailey either way...

 

[Streathamite]

that's a matter of opinion. 35 is considered youthful in the conservative party

OK fair point!
What I was getting at is that Bailey and other Tories have tried to palm this off as an impulsive outburst of an unformed young mind.
No way should they be allowed that narrative, that alibi.
This is simply. sneering class contempt

 

[Streathamite]

Oh yes, I agree 35 is young by today's standards, but not a kid. He'd still had enough life experience to know that's not practical. I took Streathamite's comment to mean the MP was an experienced, professional politician rather than some 19-year-old shooting his mouth off to impress, at the time of making the comment. Still twattish of Bailey either way...

yes, that's exactly what I meant

 

[Streathamite]

it was either that or call up john major

Or David Mellor... oh gawd
I really don't think my stomach is strong enough to deal with the inevitable resulting tabloid revelations

 

[Streathamite]

On the positive side, he's showing what a twat he is prior to being elected. This "single-mother-getting-pregnant-to-get-a-house" myth is kind of a cliche.

As a child of divorce myself, raising kids is fucking hard. Even if your kids are the best-behaved in the world and even if you've got a partner to support you and share the load. Relatively speaking, me and my siblings gave our mum an easy time but we weren't perfect. Mum cleans for a living and is always on her feet but she still says she liked going to work as it gave her a rest from us! Whereas being a parent is 24/7. No holidays, no rest breaks.

Even if this "getting-pregnant-for-a-house" theory did have any truth to it, why would anyone think that being legally responsible for another human being for AT LEAST 16 years is the easy life compared with a paid job you don't have to worry about for more than 35 hours a week? This to me would be proof that society is still pressuring girls and young women into motherhood, regardless of whether or not they're suited to it; and telling us that even in 2018, having a baby is how females get ahead. And if so, this is what we should be concerned about, rather than pointing fingers at "welfare mums".

As a fellow single parent brat myself, I know exactly where you are coming from

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Oh yes, I agree 35 is young by today's standards, but not a kid. He'd still had enough life experience to know that's not practical. I took Streathamite's comment to mean the MP was an experienced, professional politician rather than some 19-year-old shooting his mouth off to impress, at the time of making the comment. Still twattish of Bailey either way...

i was not being entirely serious

nor was i questioning the word 'immaturity'

 

[Cheesepig3]

Yeah, those fucking single mothers, sitting around all day on benefits in their palatial council houses with their flat screen tellies, eh

"Working homeless" mother's horror after daughter told her of prayers for home

And cigarettes.

The whores.

 

[Cheesepig3]

Options I've been thinking of:

* They're all too busy stabbing each other in the back at CCHQ to do anything silly like do background checks on candidates to see whether they've said anything embarrassing (or, they're too incompetent to even check speeches to their own party);
* They checked but they didn't see anything wrong with any of this stuff, and/or thought it would help;
* They checked and realised it was embarrassing but they literally don't have anyone better.

I spend some time lurktrolling on ConHome.

I’d go for ‘d’, all of the above.

 

[Edie]

Yeah, those fucking single mothers, sitting around all day on benefits in their palatial council houses with their flat screen tellies, eh

"Working homeless" mother's horror after daughter told her of prayers for home

This makes me want to take Shaun Bailey by the throat and say ‘this Orwellian nightmare is what you’ve helped create, and now you’re going to pay’.

 

[Edie]

And cigarettes.

The whores.

And no. Not that word.

 

[Cloo]

Still peddling the old babies for benefits line as though it's not patently obvious to anyone that having a baby and getting benefits costs you far more money than, y'know... not having a baby.

 

[maomao]

Still peddling the old babies for benefits line as though it's not patently obvious to anyone that having a baby and getting benefits costs you far more money than, y'know... not having a baby.

I've actually heard this lie repeated by a single mum . You would have to be starving your kid and dressing them in binbags to have anything left out of £13.70 a week.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Maybe the tories would rather throw the mayoral election than run a London MP who might win and trigger a byelection which they might then lose.

 

[brogdale]

More: Conservative mayor candidate Shaun Bailey: Condoms 'normalise sex' and push young people into crime

Jesus.
Something almost pathetic about Bailey promoting such dinosaur positions trying to persuade his party's grassroots that it's alright...he really is 'one of us'.

 

[Chilli.s]

I'd never heard of this twat til now. Have a feeling he's the kinda cunt the old torys lust after for their attempts to seem young.

 

[brogdale]

I'd never heard of this twat til now. Have a feeling he's the kinda cunt the old torys lust after for their attempts to seem young.

Was used as part of the old etonians' 'detoxification' mirage

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Jesus.
Something almost pathetic about Bailey promoting such dinosaur positions trying to persuade his party's grassroots that it's alright...he really is 'one of us'.

It is something I've noticed with people who are in one minority group who still want to be tories - they seem to try twice as hard to be bigotted towards just about every other minority group there is.

Not sure who he's trying to appeal to with all these dog whistles. They have obviously written off the Asian / Muslim vote.

And being cynical, wonder if the type of voter most likely to respond well to this sort of shite will be able to bring themselves to vote for a black candidate, even on a (to them) 'less worse than khan' basis, or whether they will go kipper instead?

 

[Streathamite]

Maybe the tories would throw the mayoral election than run a London MP who might win and trigger a byelection which they might then lose.

There's not many London Tory MPs who actually could or would stand. Boris has already done it, Zac lost last time, IDS will lose his seat next time anyway and doesn't want the job - it pretty much boils down to Greening, Blackman and Stewart.