Protest outside Old Bailey in support of Constance Marten & Mark Gordon

[Silas Loom]

No there was something superstar. She didn’t really join for that though rather just argued there was nothing wrong with drawings of child abuse. I’m paraphrasing and probably forgot a lot of it.

I’m pretty sure she did. I remember the conversation. She signed up to promote a petition or to share lobbying material from a specific organisation concerned with this aspect - and only this aspect - of free speech.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Describing child abuse as porn just trivialises it and makes it sound titilating. If you were raped and someone filmed the attack, how would you feel if everyone referred to the porn you were in?
When this guy Reynhard Sinaga - Wikipedia raped and filmed 136 adult men, no one was calling it gay porn.

You honestly think folk who refer to filmed child sexual abuse as child porn are going ‘haha’?

 

[Thora]

You honestly think folk who refer to filmed child sexual abuse as child porn are going ‘haha’?

I said trivialising and titillating, not funny.

 

[existentialist]

From Barnardos

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Every day's a schoolday. If one good thing has come out of this thread, this ^ is it.

 

[ddraig]

Take a break from the computer and ask some normal people if they’re offended by my language?

You whined, it was explained to you, you whined again and continue to.

At least if the thread attention seeker changes to you we might get rid of the loonspud OP!
Carry on, as you do

 

[ginger_syn]

You honestly think folk who refer to filmed child sexual abuse as child porn are going ‘haha’?

Its a grim hill you picked to defend here, perhaps stop and think before digging in further.

 

[two sheds]

I hadn't thought about it either, but when pointed out I'd expect a reaction of 'oh yes of course, thanks for that'.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It’s a grim hill you picked to defend here, perhaps stop and think before digging in further.

You’re not on this planet so piss off yourself.

 

[ddraig]

You’re not on this planet so piss off yourself.

please stop now

 

[existentialist]

The thread has taken a very Urbanesque turn

 

[planetgeli]

Keep going! editor said an insult-fest would close it.

 

[ginger_syn]

You’re not on this planet so piss off yourself.

Mate dont post when pissed .stop being a narcissistic twat in a miff because someone reasonably pointed something out to you have a coffee and come back when you are less twatty

 

[existentialist]

Keep going! editor said an insult-fest would close it.

How DARE you!

 

[Elpenor]

If a thread runs long enough Magnus will find a way to make a clumsy mistake and then double down rather than admit he was wrong

 

[Pickman's model]

If a thread runs long enough Magnus will find a way to make a clumsy mistake and then double down rather than admit he was wrong

To be fair these vile images and videos have long been widely described as child porn. I didn't know about the more apt term, and I'd put a few quid on Magnus McGinty not knowing either. I'll not be using porn bit in future, and I expect Magnus will act similarly

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Mate dont post when pissed .stop being a narcissistic twat in a miff because someone reasonably pointed something out to you have a coffee and come back when you are less twatty

I was simply using everyday language that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow anywhere but here.

 

[Spymaster]

I was simply using everyday language that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow anywhere but here.

You're right, but it's not a big deal is it?

Save it for the fucking nutbag OP.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

You're right, but it's not a big deal is it?

Save it for the fucking nutbag OP.

I didn’t ask DrDraig and co to attack me!

 

[CharlotteF1]

I disagree with all of it, with you in general, and with the fact that you are able to continue spouting this poisonous tripe without, it seems, the slightest glimmer of conscience.

Is that clear enough for you?

Anyway, who do you think you are? Perry fucking Mason?

Yes, it's perfectly clear. You believe that whether or not a non-consensual act against a person or their family counts as violence depends on who does it, and in particular on whether the perpetrator is a state goon or someone else - and you consider that a person who sheds light on your attitude must necessarily be toxic and evil.

This is what you are saying. You are clearly full of hatred against those who see social conditions and the state clearly.

 

[Epona]

This thread is fucking insane tbh

 

[CharlotteF1]

From Barnardos

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Would that be this Barnardo's?

Child abuse 'cover-up' claims after Barnardo's admits systematically destroying files at residential care homes

CHILDREN’S charity Barnardo’s systematically destroyed records at its residential care homes where child sex abuse occurred over three decades…

www.heraldscotland.com

 

[WouldBe]

This is what you are saying. You are clearly full of hatred against those who see social conditions and the state clearly.

So if the parents get locked up for abuse / neglect then the kids should be locked up with them.

 

[Silas Loom]

This thread is fucking insane tbh

The OP is now getting sucked into the side issue that some idiot raised. This bodes ill.

 

[CharlotteF1]

So if the parents get locked up for abuse / neglect then the kids should be locked up with them.

The poster said they disagreed with the statement that forcibly capturing children was an act of violence. Try to stay on the point.

Sometimes violence is justified.

Saying it can't be violence when the state does it is insane.

Why does Britain have such an extraordinarily high rate of forced adoptions, including of newborn babies (i.e. labelling women as unfit to breed)?
Is there something about British culture that gives rise to an exceptionally large proportion of wicked parents, or parents who just DGAF?
Or is there something, y'know, a bit unusual about the way the authorities view the population here?
To get a handle on these questions, try to think of a single other country that has so many media articles containing assertions that "experts" have said this, that, or the other, or that bigs up the word "professional" so much.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Take a break from the computer and ask some normal people if they’re offended by my language?

It's not about being offended you tiresome arse. It's about calling something what it actually is in recognition of, and with a view to preventing, the grave harm it causes.

 

[CharlotteF1]

The OP is now getting sucked into the side issue that some idiot raised. This bodes ill.

I only know about Barnado's. I don't know anything about the argument on the terminological issue, and as far as I am concerned this thread has zero to do with what to call child sexual abuse.

 

[WouldBe]

The poster said they disagreed with the statement that forcibly capturing children was an act of violence. Try to stay on the point.

Sometimes it is justified.

So it's not an act of violence then is it.

 

[Epona]

The OP is now getting sucked into the side issue that some idiot raised. This bodes ill.

And it wasn't very rational to begin with.

 

[krtek a houby]

What's your relationship with the couple?

You seem to be very invested in the case. To the point of repeatedly returning here and spouting some very questionable views.

Anything to say on this, CharlotteF1

 

[Mumbles274]

My vote is their dealer.. Wants the regular cash flow back of the ridiculous money she got which wasn't enough to get a hotel, or flat, or any other sort of suitable accomadation.