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Protest outside Old Bailey in support of Constance Marten & Mark Gordon

First I heard of that case. Doubtless it's a standard talking point among SS officers who want to demonise the resistance.
Have a look and see what you think. Your beloved Ian Josephs was very much involved.


Marie Black was convicted of offences including rape and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity. Two men were found guilty of child sex abuse and another woman was found guilty of assault. She had been helped escape justice in the past by Ian Joseph and his network.

"We also know that some in the network put their money where their mouth is. One who openly admits giving cash to parents to help them leave the country, is Ian Josephs. He is based in Monaco and is the author of the infamous ‘ten Golden Rules’ which advises parents not to co-operate with social workers and to think very carefully before reporting even sexual abuse of your children.

BBC Radio 4’s Face the Facts programme in January 2014 ‘Forced Adoption and the Mums on the Run’ examined the network of people helping parents leave the UK rather than face investigation.

Mr Josephs was interviewed and confirmed that he has spent about £30,000 helping parents and he did not conduct any kind of risk assessment about the danger these parents might pose to their children. An article in the Daily Mirror in July 2014 confirmed this figure and said it involved 200 families.

Ian Josephs helped Marie Black leave the UK."
 
"Abusers of children". Imagine calling parents who rescue their children from kidnappers that! There is a huge amount of abuse in foster care and in local authority institutions, and parents are scared into not complaining about it if they ever want their children back, or sometimes if they are to be allowed even to meet their children. This is quite aside from the fact that forced adoption is an abuse, and forced adoption at birth, i.e. the designation of women as unfit to breed, is an abomination.

You should have your mouth washed out with a toilet brush, for calling resistant victims "abusers", and for defining the escape network as one that helps abusers evade justice.

Everyone who resists the state is a paedophile underminer of public health paid by Russia, right?

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon are not any kind of child abusers.

What's your relationship with the couple?

You seem to be very invested in the case. To the point of repeatedly returning here and spouting some very questionable views.
 
Marie Black was convicted of offences including rape and inciting a child to engage in sexual activity. Two men were found guilty of child sex abuse and another woman was found guilty of assault. She had been helped escape justice in the past by Ian Joseph and his network.

"We also know that some in the network put their money where their mouth is. One who openly admits giving cash to parents to help them leave the country, is Ian Josephs. He is based in Monaco and is the author of the infamous ‘ten Golden Rules’ which advises parents not to co-operate with social workers and to think very carefully before reporting even sexual abuse of your children.

Sounds like he's a leader of some sort of peadophile network.
 
This thread's getting a bit ridiculous. Shouldn't it be binned off already? The OP is obviously deluded and I don't think anyone with any sensible contribution is getting through to them anytime soon.
Well, yes and no. I've actually learned quite a lot about related issues, but that's only come from people correcting the gibberish posting up by the WW2 Enactment Society.
 
Note to counter-disinformation specialists: whatever you do, don't help publicise the protests outside the Old Bailey that will resume on Monday 25 March and continue on every subsequent day of the trial.

These protests will continue during the evidence given by Ian Josephs, an expert witness for Constance Marten, if he is called.

They will also continue if the defence is successful in forcing SS officers to come to court to explain themselves.

Also don't link to pieces on major news sites showing the interviews the defendants (who will no longer be defendants) will give outside the Old Bailey when they are acquitted.

They are bound to mention those who are still suffering. Victims of judicial persecution, when they're vindicated, always do. The Birmingham Six did it, the Guildford Four did it, and you can expect the wicked Constance Marten to do it too.

Remember: protestors against oppression are deranged; protestors against oppression are monsters. They aren't like decent counter-disinformation specialists and social workers who kidnap and lie and fanatically believe they should be given even more resources to continue their evil work. Such valiant public servants are thoroughly normal and socially responsible. Just remember: protestors are deranged, protestors are monsters, and those who publicise political protests against oppression are undermining public safety and do not deserve one molecule of the oxygen of publicity. These people deliberately undermine the state, health and safety, safeguarding, the public good, morality, national security, the defence of the nation, the GDPR, public health, and the tough work undertaken by social workers for so little reward or recognition. Undermining the state is the same thing as being an enemy of the people. It's a people's state. It's a free country. Anyone who undermines it is an enemy of the people. Ask any expert.

These people are monsters. And they will be everywhere, if they get the chance. Lines of defence against these monsters are like thin ice.

So please inform the nearest social worker or counter-disinformation officer, worker for Prevent, or police officer if you believe you have spotted a monster. Do not on any account attempt to engage with them. Hurling hate-filled vitriol at them in short internet messages is acceptable, so long as you realise they are the public enemy. Don't do it more than once or twice. Don't feed them. Starve them. They are dangerous. Protestors are dangerous. Protests are only acceptable if they run on accepted lines, on what are accepted to be responsible people's issues, such as climate change or home insulation or calling on the government to do more to achieve its stated aims.

Supporting defendants who criticise social workers is only a few steps short of terrorism. Enemies of the system can be highly articulate. Be vigilant against them whenever you are in a public space, offline or online. They will exploit whatever freedom they are allowed. They will use their wombs against what they call "the System", their keyboards - absolutely anything.

These people are wicked. They use the language of "human rights" and "opposing violence against women" with nothing but subversion and sabotage in their tiny deranged minds.

They are extremists. You can report them here.
The horrific abuse of strawmen in this post is a disgrace , its some of the worst I've ever seen and I'm on a Doctor Who forum.shame on you to mistreat them so.
 
There was a poster once who joined up because they wanted to protect the right to create explicit drawings of children in sexual acts, and hoped to enlist Urban in their cause. They stayed on for ages and became something of a fixture IIRC.

We have had a few genuine sex cases here over the years, but I’m pretty sure that was Ninj.
 
We have had a few genuine sex cases here over the years, but I’m pretty sure that was Ninj.

No there was something superstar. She didn’t really join for that though rather just argued there was nothing wrong with drawings of child abuse. I’m paraphrasing and probably forgot a lot of it.
 
Anyway, I remember both the poster name and thread now. No idea if it was Ninj but they were called Itziko and originally Itziko Superstar and this was the thread they departed on.

 
Someone who is sickened by child exploitation without feeling the need to be aghast at the words used to describe it.
Describing child abuse as porn just trivialises it and makes it sound titilating. If you were raped and someone filmed the attack, how would you feel if everyone referred to the porn you were in?
When this guy Reynhard Sinaga - Wikipedia raped and filmed 136 adult men, no one was calling it gay porn.
 
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