North Shropshire by-election

[killer b]

put Labour into a good second place

wasn't Paterson's majority 22,000?

 

[Leighsw2]

Graeme Currie:
"Yesterday the NEC blocked my inclusion onto the North Shropshire local members hustings to shortlist for the upcoming by-election candidate. Under the guise of “due diligence” they raised spurious concerns regarding a tweet 2018 of a Palestinian badge and a Facebook post in 2020"

"I am not sure I am even a member anymore
I express my sadness, anger and revulsion at this unfair and undemocratic treatment! I will not be able to campaign now or probably ever again for the Labour Party. I am devastated and destroyed by the casual horror of my treatment by NEC."

"In a fair and free contest I would have loved to work for and 100% support Ben Wood. I hold no animosity towards Ben. But for the NEC to sideline me for their own purposes using baseless anti semitism slurs is a dagger to my heart."

This guy's a Christian socialist who's been a member of the Labour Party since 1980. Basically the kind of grassroots stalwart who's kept the party going through thick and thin over the years. And who stayed with the Party when it was deeply unfashionable after Iraq during the fag-end years of Blairism.

Now, the party establishment that blocked him even going before the members of the CLP on the shortlist have basically given up on this bye-election (has Starmer even visited?) and will no doubt hide behind the inadequacy of the candidate they imposed as an excuse. Welcome to the grown-ups party!

 

[Leighsw2]

wasn't Paterson's majority 22,000?

Yes, it's a very safe Tory seat. But he took Labour's vote from 19 to 31% - double the Liberal vote. Can you imagine the Liberals going into this bye-election having gained a third of the vote only four years ago and basically giving up on it? That's right-wing Labour for you!

 

[killer b]

I know Labour had double the Lib Dem vote in 2019, but that is still some distance from being a 'good second place'. It was a terrible second place.

 

[killer b]

Anyone know what the offending tweet & facebook posts the guy got the heave-to over were btw?

 

[Leighsw2]

It was a terrible second place.

30% of the vote constitutes 'Liberals winning here' for the Guardian!

 

[PR1Berske]

The map of the constituency for reference...

North Shropshire - MapIt

MapIt: a web service that maps postcodes and geographical points to administrative areas.

mapit.mysociety.org

 

[brogdale]

The map of the constituency for reference...

North Shropshire - MapIt

MapIt: a web service that maps postcodes and geographical points to administrative areas.

mapit.mysociety.org

Just realised that I know parts of that area...as an 18YO, with some friends, we did a canal boat holiday on the Shropshire Union & Llangollen canals; happy/hazy memories.

 

[Wilf]

That’s some uncanny valley shit right there

He'd have that look on his face if he was telling you your relatives had suffered a violent death.

 

[Wilf]

30% of the vote constitutes 'Liberals winning here' for the Guardian!

I'm loath to admit it, but I suspect they might.

 

[tim]

It seems there could be another Salopian sleaze domino on the verge of being toppled. Daniel Kawczinski has been trying to get jobs by boasting about his pandering to murderous tyrants.

Tory MP needing ‘to pay school fees’ pleaded for lucrative Middle East work

Ed Davey will be whacking himself crazy with his little orange mallet

 

[Kaka Tim]

Got a feeling that all this talk of the vermin losing the seat is expectation management so a win but with a much reduced vote share will look like an endorsement of the sack of shit at no 10

 

[tim]

Got a feeling that all this talk of the vermin losing the seat is expectation management so a win but with a much reduced vote share will look like an endorsement of the sack of shit at no 10

Like the Labour result at Batley and Spen did for Starmer.

 

[Leighsw2]

Certainly if the Lib Dems don't take the seat and Labour come a poor third, there's going to be a real shit show for the opposition coming out of this. Let's see what happens tomorrow!

 

[Dogsauce]

I expect some of the confusion over who is best placed for a protest vote is being orchestrated by the tories, a clear benefit if they can split the opposition.

 

[killer b]

lol as if they'd need to

 

[tim]

I expect some of the confusion over who is best placed for a protest vote is being orchestrated by the tories, a clear benefit if they can split the opposition.

I expect it is being organised by the Liberals because that's what they always do. They're very good at the "We're the only ones who can beat the Tories/Labour in this seat" schtick.

As for organised Tories, they're too busy trying to split each other open to bother about the other parties.

 

[Fedayn]

Just realised that I know parts of that area...as an 18YO, with some friends, we did a canal boat holiday on Shropshire Union & Llangollen

My mum and dad had a cabin cruiser when I lived in Cheshire, we had a holiday on rhe Shropshire Union and Llangollen canals (numerous others too). Have to say was pretty good laugh as a kid, outside, fishing every day, loved it. .

 

[Wilf]

Omicron could affect the result, with a generally lower in person vote. Hard to tell who the postal votes will favour as I can't quite remember which bit of johnson's crisis was happening when they were filled in. Anyway, I'm slightly edging towards a vermin hold on low turnout and much reduced majority.

 

[kebabking]

Shropshire council have extended the emergency proxy voting deadline to 5pm today (actual voting day) to mitigate the covid effect.

 

[JimW]

My mum and dad had a cabin cruiser when I lived in Cheshire, we had a holiday on rhe Shropshire Union and Llangollen canals (numerous others too). Have to say was pretty good laugh as a kid, outside, fishing every day, loved it. .

You must have come through Audlem which was where we lived, we used to make a bit of pocket money doing all the locks in that run for people.

 

[Fedayn]

You must have come through Audlem which was where we lived, we used to make a bit of pocket money doing all the locks in that run for people.

We did aye, a set of 5? locks there?

 

[JimW]

We did aye, a set of 5? locks there?

More I think, might even be a dozen, but I'd have to check, moved away when I was still a kid.
ETA 15! Shropshire Union Canal

 

[elbows]

Ed Davey will be whacking himself crazy with his little orange mallet

He'll have to whack it in private since he is self isolating due to testing positive for covid the other day.

 

[brogdale]

Twatter has managed to cheer me up on a grumpy, grey day!

 

[Serge Forward]

More I think, might even be a dozen, but I'd have to check, moved away when I was still a kid.
ETA 15! Shropshire Union Canal

Remember it well, from my days living in Choke-on-Stench and Castle. Audlem locks were a nice day out. Any road, what the bleedin' 'ell has this got to do with the topic???

 

[brogdale]

Hope all those elderly tory voters in Shropshire N. are getting an early night tonight to be up early for their turn at the polling stations tomorrow.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hope all those elderly tory voters in Shropshire N. are getting an early night tonight to be up early for their turn at the polling stations tomorrow.

i think i've seen this post somewhere before

i hope they turn out today and remember all the stories about sunak and pensions

 

[not a trot]

He'll have to whack it in private since he is self isolating due to testing positive for covid the other day.

Whacking it should only be done in private.

 

[PR1Berske]

Meanwhile, on planet Lozza Fox....