New age cosmic hippies and the far right

[Blagsta]

Are there lots of people like this? I just looked on that page and couldn't see any others.

The problem with facebook pages is that any old nutter can 'like' it and start posting up bollocks.

Yep, loads. The Occupy Birmingham UK page and the Occupy Victoria Square Birmingham UK group is full of them.

 

[xes]

He's no proper new age anything. Otherwise he'd have known that we are but mere lodgers on this world, and everyone has the right to be where they are right now.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I was giving an example

Ignore me, long day!

 

[elbows]

This needs another airing that butchers' drew attention to:

Agree about Zeitgeist, I've had a leftwing friend recommend it to me on Facebook in the past. I should track him down and give him a link to that article because at the time I could only be bothered to say it was shit.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Think its more a buying a rare type book thing, but its still very odd.

Not really, there's a long history of left/anti fascist groups circulating fascist/nazi materials for research and know thy enemy reasons.

Trying to portray the Morning Star folks as possibly being anti semitic even by association is slightly tasteless to say the least, especially given the substantial Jewish involvement in the old CPGB and more recently the CPB.

 

[fogbat]

He's no proper new age anything. Otherwise he'd have known that we are but mere lodgers on this world, and everyone has the right to be where they are right now.

Get out of my kitchen.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Agree about Zeitgeist, I've had a leftwing friend recommend it to me on Facebook in the past. I should track him down and give him a link to that article because at the time I could only be bothered to say it was shit.

There's a reason left/liberal types are being drawn in by the disturbing Zeitgeist phenomanom and that's the same reason so many disillousioned people are turning towards open far-right politics. There is not a plausible progressive, class based alternative out there to explain and combat what is happening to our society. Until a genuinely radical, socially transformative, non sectarian working class movement appears people will be drawn to fakirs and snake oil salesmen with easy and/or exciting answers and plans.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Brings to my mind the phrase, "scratch a hippy & find a fascist."

Punching works faster

 

[Citizen66]

Punching works faster

Yeah. Chin the hippy. And if it turns out he's a liberal/tory/fascist then that's bonus points.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

C'mon Dave, we know violence doesn't achieve the desired results.

Unless you're a pig.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Yeah. Chin the hippy. And if it turns out he's a liberal/tory/fascist then that's bonus points.

lol

 

[Citizen66]

Hey, I like the avatar Bish (avatars, lol!) but why can't he lift his umbrella up?

 

[DaveCinzano]

C'mon Dave, we know violence doesn't achieve the desired results.

It's not violence, it's cosmic realignment.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[elbows]

Funny how a lot of these new age cosmic types espouse extreme right wing ideas under the guise of peace and love innit? There's loads of 'em all over the Occupy Facebook pages.

There's one called "Quintessence Healer",who says they are "Here to help the earth as a Light Worker, which i like to call Gaia Consiousness.", yet has this to say about immigrants "What rights do you serve when you dont even Belong here, You only care about your own Countries.... Your all Scum. And you know what your doing.... Your here to try and Push the U.K Population Out of Work......".

Can you point me in the direction of the Facebook page in question?

 

[Blagsta]

https://www.facebook.com/occupylondon?sk=wall&filter=1

 

[elbows]

Ta. That page is busy, so far I haven't reached the stuff you mention but I have seen multiple posts quacking about free energy, Tesla etc.

 

[Blagsta]

try this one
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Occupy-Birmingham-UK/154845231274653

I've been banned from it and my posts expunged, for taking issue with the anti-semitism

 

[Nigel]

When I went to Socialism conference, around the front of Quaker meeting hall in the afernoon came across a group calling itself Lawful Rebellion. They seemed a bit eccentric and anti left but not too dodgy. A guy on one of the stalls trying to convince me to his point of view was heavily involved in UK Collumn who are a bit dodgy and who have as activists and writers some eccentric third positionist types such as ex N @t10nal @n archist W @yne $ turgeon, also saw some leaflet(s) which could have been 1 T P. Someone had also scattered som B N P leaflets around.

The guy who I was talking to said they were going down to St. Pauls to talk to protesters and get the 'better' elements interested in his quite eccentric stuff. He claimed to be qiute active around recent protests but could be elaborating about this.

What I am trying to illustrate & suggest here is that certain elements of far right & 'r a dical c entre' groups appear to be of the opinion that this is as much there territory as the left.

 

[Blagsta]

Yeah, that lot are all over the Occupy Birmingham Facebook page, thankfully most of the loons have left the actual camp.

 

[pinkmonkey]

try this one
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Occupy-Birmingham-UK/154845231274653

I've been banned from it and my posts expunged, for taking issue with the anti-semitism

You should've posted up some pretty Adobe Illustrator artwork of Guy Fawkes instead. They'd love it. I've not exactly wanted to get involved from what I've seen online. It really puts me off. Let's get a Guy Fawkes avatar - it'll solve everything!

 

[Old Gergl]

When I went to Socialism conference, around the front of Quaker meeting hall in the afernoon came across a group calling itself Lawful Rebellion.

so chaotic good then?

(shippou-sensei posting)

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

so chaotic good then?

(shippou-sensei posting)

No worse - Lawful - Chaotic

A chaotic good group would be called
'Crazy Peace' or summat.

 

[Blagsta]

geeks!

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

*rolls a D10*

 

[redsquirrel]

There's a reason left/liberal types are being drawn in by the disturbing Zeitgeist phenomanom and that's the same reason so many disillousioned people are turning towards open far-right politics. There is not a plausible progressive, class based alternative out there to explain and combat what is happening to our society. Until a genuinely radical, socially transformative, non sectarian working class movement appears people will be drawn to fakirs and snake oil salesmen with easy and/or exciting answers and plans.

True but while/until that movement appears we should make sure that this bollocks makes as little inroads as possible. Despite the protestations of (at least) one poster on this board the aims of the loons do not match the vast majority of those on the left.

 

[ska invita]

It "suggests" it maybe. Its not proof though is it? If they were selling it, I think it's very very unlikely it was because they were pushing these ideas, as spawnofsatan is suggesting.

From what i gather Morning Star gets thousands and thousands of donated second hand books, and run all kinds of stalls for fundraising. Im sure they dont edit the stock, but just sell it. You'll find all kind of shite on a used book stall. Its definitely not a political decision, Id bet my life on it.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Can't say I've ever come across one of these types before. It certainly sounds very odd. Although I suppose the Nazis were into all that occult nonsense so it kind of fits in.

epic godwin

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

No worse - Lawful - Chaotic

A chaotic good group would be called
'Crazy Peace' or summat.

that doesn't exist

your options

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

*rolls a D10*

...

d10?

are you sure you don't mean d20?