Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder

[cupid_stunt]

I'll hazard a guess she won't get 38 months. She'll probably have several character witnesses to say she was/is of otherwise good character. Her lawyer will claim undue hardship to the family, because who will look after the kids (erm, maybe the father?), and won't someone think of the poor children. If she's still on remand pending sentencing now, I reckon she'll get out and and be sentenced to tagging, curfew, community service.

Women are often treated more harshly than men by the criminal (in)justice system, but in this case it's possible her husband being a Tory councillor might still have some influence, despite the sentencing hearing being moved to Birmingham.

I am not sure about that, the magistrates court has sent she to the crown court, because they felt they didn't have the power to sentence her for long enough, which IIRC is a year in the magistrates court.

They also transferred the case to B'ham, so to avoid any basis as a result of her husband being an elected official in Northampton.

Dogsauce posted she would likely only get a slap on the wrist, and others agreed, yet that hasn't happened, the case is considered to be serious.

 

[NoXion]

It's my thread and your posting is very welcome in it!

Thank you. More recent conversations with my flatmate have reassured me somewhat, but I'm still a bit worried.

 

[emanymton]

Tree surgeon who 'found himself' in riot holds head in hands as truth comes out

Dane Potter has been sentenced to two years and two months

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

What the fuck.

The judge said it was accepted by prosecutors that Potter’s offending was not racially aggravated.

 

[Orang Utan]

Tree surgeon who 'found himself' in riot holds head in hands as truth comes out

Dane Potter has been sentenced to two years and two months

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

What the fuck.

Tbf it’s not clear from the article that his behaviour was demonstrably racially aggravated

 

[emanymton]

Tbf it’s not clear from the article that his behaviour was demonstrably racially aggravated

Yep, I'm sure he was participating in a rascist riot in a non-racially aggravated fashion.

I mean I get it maybe you can say nothing he did on the day was directly rascist. But just taking part was rascist. It isn't going to be white people who feel unsafe due to this cunts actions. Just being there is racially aggravating.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yep, I'm sure he was participating in a rascist riot in a non-racially aggravated fashion.

I mean I get it maybe you can say nothing he did on the day was directly rascist. But just taking part was rascist. It isn't going to be white people who feel unsafe due to this cunts actions. Just being there is racially aggravating.

Yes, but it’s not surprising he wasn’t done for it as I don’t think just being there constitutes as racially aggravated offending whatever you or I may think.

 

[emanymton]

Yes, but it’s not surprising he wasn’t done for it as I don’t think just being there constitutes as racially aggravated offending whatever you or I may think.

Maybe you are right, but I'm not happy about it.

 

[Spymaster]

Yep, I'm sure he was participating in a rascist riot in a non-racially aggravated fashion.

I mean I get it maybe you can say nothing he did on the day was directly rascist. But just taking part was rascist. It isn't going to be white people who feel unsafe due to this cunts actions. Just being there is racially aggravating.

Doesn’t work like that. He got done for lobbing rocks at the police during a disturbance. If he’d chucked them at black people, it could be argued that it was racially aggravated.

Still a nice little sentence though

 

[Spymaster]

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[Pickman's model]

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The best point you've made in months

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

The best point you've made in months

I disagree with it, though.

 

[Elpenor]

Someone with 10 convictions including for affray and having an offensive weapon is not an average citizen.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I disagree with it, though.

It is the urban way.

 

[existentialist]

Someone with 10 convictions including for affray and having an offensive weapon is not an average citizen.

"Once may be considered an accident..."

 

[Spymaster]

"Once may be considered an accident..."

Reminds me of the judge’s sentencing comments to that crap criminal a few years ago; “you have 22 convictions for burglary, 40 for theft, and 18 for robbery …. Have you ever considered another line of work?”

 

[emanymton]

Still a nice little sentence though

On the sentences in general, what are people's thoughts and how they compare to left protests?

To me the ones I have seen still look rather short comparatively, but it could be we are still just seeing simple cases with a guilty plea.

I've not see anything about charges directly related to the arson at the hotels which in theory could lead to the longest sentences, but it would not surprise me if we don't see any significant charges relating to those.

 

[keybored]

something needs to be done to twitter and elon fucking musk

I can't think what could be done to Elon Musk that could make anything worse for him than just being Elon Musk.

 

[Wilf]

Someone with 10 convictions including for affray and having an offensive weapon is not an average citizen.

In effect, his defence against it being racially aggravated: 'Look, I'm always fighting, you can't expect me to check what each tear up is about. Life is short, you've got to seize the moment'.

 

[Wilf]

I can't think what could be done to Elon Musk that could make anything worse for him than just being Elon Musk.

I mean, really, the clue's in the name: Lone Skum.

 

[DaveCinzano]

In effect, his defence against it being racially aggravated: 'Look, I'm always fighting, you can't expect me to check what each tear up is about. Life is short, you've got to seize the moment'.

Classic case of a man who lives by the motto ‘Crappy Diem’

 

[Elpenor]

In effect, his defence against it being racially aggravated: 'Look, I'm always fighting, you can't expect me to check what each tear up is about. Life is short, you've got to seize the moment'.

I’m not prejudiced me, I’ll fight anyone.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I’m not prejudiced me, I’ll fight anyone.

‘Some of my best victims are...uhh...’

 

[Wilf]

I’m not prejudiced me, I’ll fight anyone.

I'll bet he sits on the wrong end of the branch when he saws through it.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'll bet he sits on the wrong end of the branch when he saws through it.

Man vs rake

 

[Wilf]

Man vs rake

The Sideshow Bob of Non-Racism.

 

[Wilf]

It's his kids I worry for. For as we know, the apple never falls far from the tree surgeon.

 

[Serge Forward]

It's his kids I worry for. For as we know, the apple never falls far from the tree surgeon.

I don't think you're treating this with the gravity it deserves.

 

[PTK]

Tree surgeon who 'found himself' in riot holds head in hands as truth comes out

Dane Potter has been sentenced to two years and two months

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

What the fuck.

I assume that that was because he was not heard to say racist things. So, kids, if you want to do a bit of racism, keep your mouth shut.

“He accepts that his behaviour is completely unacceptable. It is something he is incredibly ashamed of.” Yes, indeed, his shame is not credible, incredible being the antonym of credible.

 

[Wilf]

What happens when a tree surgeon is racist in a forest, but there's no one there to hear him?

The judge says that it was accepted by prosecutors that his offending was not racially aggravated

 

[hitmouse]

One for the ongoing discussion about whether or not/how far it was the petty-bourgeois who dunnit:

Ms Potter said the defendant fears his business, in which he employs six people, could fold without him.