You make it sound like a kid being let out on their own for the first.
"It's fine dear, if s/he gets into trouble we'll ground the fucker and take away their priviliges for a few years."
In the pub tonight most people said they favoured Nicola Sturgeon. What a pity this is S E UK..
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You make it sound like a kid being let out on their own for the first.
"It's fine dear, if s/he gets into trouble we'll ground the fucker and take away their priviliges for a few years."
coley
Well-Known Member
No, the Scots are mature enough to make their own choices, they aren't bairns, my suggestion allows them everything they seemingly want?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
What is it you think they want? The referendum wasn't that long ago.
coley
Well-Known Member
That's what I can't understand,if you vote SNP you are voting for a party that wants independence, why should they want to go to Westminster if they have the opportunity for self governance?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
What do they seemingly want?
They voted to stay in the UK.
They now look likely to return a lot of SNP MPs to Westminster.
It looks like they seemingly want a lot of SNP MPs at Westminster.
People vote/will vote SNP for various reasons. They do not necessarily want independence.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Try a bit harder, then. It's not difficult.
coley
Well-Known Member
From most of the reports I have seen,a lot of Scots who voted no now regret that decision,if there is an overwhelming vote for the SNP I believe they should be given the opportunity to go for self governance with the opportunity to make that permanent 6 months prior to the next election.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Oh. My. God.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Right so everybody has to support the entirety of the policies of a party to vote for them? Do you apply this "theory" to parties other than the SNP?
Yeah, I wouldn't have thought that this was a particularly difficult concept to grasp.
coley
Well-Known Member
Remind me,what is the primary aim of the SNP?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
1. You can have many reasons for voting SNP; e.g. sticking two fingers up at Labour, wanting independence, liking what they've done in Scotland so far, being the best of a bad bunch...
2. The SNP wants to go to Westminster because a lot of the decisions which affect Scotland are taken there; as avowed champions of Scotland and the Scots they'd be daft/irresponsible not to.
3. In the real world is no opportunity for self government and that's where votes will be cast.
Do you still not understand?
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Why have that when we now have the opportunity of letting you know what suppression feels like.
coley
Well-Known Member
Suppression? Try living in the NE of England, what's a matter with you lot, I thought you wanted rid of the English yoke?
coley
Well-Known Member
I like the idea of leaving the EU,but I wouldn't vote UKIP.I'm gobsmacked by the idea that people can choose to vote for a party while not supporting all their long term aims
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Remind me, what is the primary point of voting for a Westminster constituency MP?
The message Scots are getting is this: "if you vote a certain way you will get a fuck load more attention than if you vote the way we'd prefer. Now...Vote the way we prefer."
Secondary question: if Lord Tebbit says "I don't want this particular outcome. On no account bring it about". What is the temptation?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
55% didn't. And not only that, neither did anyone now telling us we must only vote for certain parties now that we're staying.
coley
Well-Known Member
That's what puzzles me, I have proposed an idea that gives the SNP everything they seemingly want yet nobody seems to welcome the idea?We were denied it last year. Now you lot will feel our wrath.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
coley
Well-Known Member
But it seems that a lot of the 55% have now changed their minds, so why not give the SNP what they seemingly want.
coley
Well-Known Member
Then why vote SNP? Surely the Scots know what voting SNP means?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
You and Tebbit carry on like this and the SNP will get what they want. And sooner and more messily than you'd have hoped for.
Too little. Too late.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Yes. Panic in the faces of politicians and London based reporters.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Does it? Based on what?
There are some post-referendum polls that have show a "Yes" lead, but about the same number have shown a "No" lead. And if we just consider the polls from 2015 a majority have had "No" in favour. So to argue that a lot of No voters have switched isn't really born out by the facts.
IMO I'd also argue that the fact that any future referendum is hypothetical at the current time is likely cause a boost the YES vote.
coley
Well-Known Member
Why shouldn't the SNP get what they want,if the majority of people in Scotland vote SNP then why not give the SNP what it wants, full autonomy?
But with the caveat they have no voting rights at Westminster, my suggestion gives the SNP what they seemingly want but without the mess.
coley
Well-Known Member
Full autonomy, too little??
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