Have you had the SECOND covid jab yet?

[wayward bob]

2nd AZ today, 10 weeks after first. everything i've seen is a well oiled machine tbf. no probs with appointments coming though and big vaccine centres cheerfully staffed. that's our folks, me & mr b all double AZ-ed, kid1 single pfizered, kid2 hopefully with youth on their side :fingerscrossed:

impressed & thankful

 

[purves grundy]

Me too, 2 x AZ, all done now

 

[platinumsage]

Got the "bring your AZ appointment forward from 12 weeks to 8" email this morning, which I won't be following up on.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Got the "bring your AZ appointment forward from 12 weeks to 8" email this morning, which I won't be following up on.

Why?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Got the "bring your AZ appointment forward from 12 weeks to 8" email this morning, which I won't be following up on.

Why not?

 

[wayward bob]

from what i heard it's more effective the longer you can leave the second, is that right?

 

[prunus]

Got the "bring your AZ appointment forward from 12 weeks to 8" email this morning, which I won’t be following up on.

Given that one of our prime societal goals at the moment is to get as many people as possible to full vaccination status as quickly as possible to try to forestall delta, I would also echo the why nots above?

 

[Badgers]

from what i heard it's more effective the longer you can leave the second, is that right?

We have Pfizer jabbed some people after four weeks gap. That was approved by the doctor on site as they were travelling.

8-12 weeks is ideal

 

[2hats]

No. Will wait for VLA-2001/NVX-CoV2373/mRNA-1273.211/mRNA-1273.351 in the autumn.

 

[prunus]

from what i heard it's more effective the longer you can leave the second, is that right?

There do appear to be some increases in efficiency at a population level with 12 week gaps, yes, but for an individual (where individual response variance will likely massively outweigh that) the risk-averse stance is to get fully protected ASAP. It’s also the social thing to do, as it increases the overall population protection level, lowering transmission and protecting everyone.

e2a in the light of the below - it does change if one knows one has been infected in the past, as that means the first vaccine acts as a booster (super booster even) and one is already highly protected, so any incremental protection from the second vaccine becomes pretty moot in all calculations.

 

[wayward bob]

i do get the time pressure thing...

 

[prunus]

No. Will wait for VLA-2001/NVX-CoV2373/mRNA-1273.211/mRNA-1273.351 in the autumn.

Isn’t this going to used as a boost to already 2xvaccinated people?

 

[elbows]

No. Will wait for VLA-2001/NVX-CoV2373/mRNA-1273.211/mRNA-1273.351 in the autumn.

Tempting, since I am not looking forward to visiting a vaccination centre during a time of extremely high viral prevalence.

However I've only had one Pfizer dose so far, and probably didnt get infected in the past either, so my current level of protection is sub-optimal. Plus I'm under 50 (46) so cannot make assumptions about being offered a vaccine as a booster in the autumn.

What would you do if you were me? If I proceed with standard 2 dose plan then my second dose wont happen till late July or early August. And I dont need to leave the house at all apart from for vaccination purposes.

 

[platinumsage]

Given that one of our prime societal goals at the moment is to get as many people as possible to full vaccination status as quickly as possible to try to forestall delta, I would also echo the why nots above?

Common sense, sorry it seems to upset people.

 

[2hats]

Isn’t this going to used as a boost to already 2xvaccinated people?

Should see some numbers from Com-COV2 and COV-Boost by around then, though doubtless supply factors at that time will play a major role in decisions.

Tempting, since I am not looking forward to visiting a vaccination centre during a time of extremely high viral prevalence.

However I've only had one Pfizer dose so far, and probably didnt get infected in the past either, so my current level of protection is sub-optimal. Plus I'm under 50 (46) so cannot make assumptions about being offered a vaccine as a booster in the autumn.

What would you do if you were me? If I proceed with standard 2 dose plan then my second dose wont happen till late July or early August. And I dont need to leave the house at all apart from for vaccination purposes.

Non-convalescent? Definitely go and get the second dose.

I'm only taking this approach due to my own particular circumstances, don't recommend it for anyone else and it is obviously subject to revision as further, reproducible research comes to light plus some immunological analysis in the coming weeks.

 

[elbows]

Non-convalescent? Definitely go and get the second dose.

I'm only taking this approach due to my own particular circumstances, don't recommend it for anyone else and it is obviously subject to revision as further, reproducible research comes to light plus some immunological analysis in the coming weeks.

Cheers, I knew you'd be tailoring your approach to your own circumstances which is why I included lots of detail about my own circumstances.

Its going to be difficult for me because I find it extremely hard to leave the house when levels of infection are high. But at least I timed my first dose so that it coincided with the May bottoming out of cases, and the fact I've had one dose makes it slightly easier to imagine leaving the house for 2nd dose.

 

[Elpenor]

Managed to bring mine forward to the 10th July. 8 weeks + 1 day since jab 2. I prefer to go first thing in the morning so I can get it done early, and hopefully less of a queue as I find it hard to stand for long.

 

[Brainaddict]

I'm still waiting to see if they allow people with AZ to get an mRNA vaccine as second dose, due to how badly the AZ set back my long covid (I'm feeling better now but still have a chest ache, which previously had at last faded to nothing after a year of it). I'm starting to think they might not do it due to supply issues though, even though the evidence for doing it seems pretty solid at this point.

 

[Riklet]

I'm still waiting to see if they allow people with AZ to get an mRNA vaccine as second dose, due to how badly the AZ set back my long covid (I'm feeling better now but still have a chest ache, which previously had at last faded to nothing after a year of it). I'm starting to think they might not do it due to supply issues though, even though the evidence for doing it seems pretty solid at this point.

Did you see the recent posts in the vaccines for covid thread?

Good trial results with AZ followed by Pfizer.

Also data showing covid convalescents have a good response to 1st jab, 2nd not much of a boost with AZ.

Soooo basically you could just do nothing for the moment. Glad things are improving again albeit slowly though!

 

[Brainaddict]

Did you see the recent posts in the vaccines for covid thread?

Good trial results with AZ followed by Pfizer.

Also data showing covid convalescents have a good response to 1st jab, 2nd not much of a boost with AZ.

Soooo basically you could just do nothing for the moment. Glad things are improving again albeit slowly though!

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking at the moment. By coincidence the zoe app emailed me the other day offering me an antibody test, so I will even get my antibodies checked now. I definitely won't commit to a second AZ until I see the results of that. If for some reason I have low anti-bodies, and they decide not to offer Pfizer, I may then get the AZ, but otherwise it seems an unnecessary risk to me.

 

[Cloo]

2nd time around with Pfizer had very slightly sore arm for 24 hours, was very sleepy for a few hours next morning but then fine by lunchtime.

 

[miss direct]

There's a walk in event at the stadium tomorrow, going to try my luck there for second jab.

 

[miss direct]

Double jabbed up - six weeks after my first Pfizer they were more than happy to give me my second. Feel terrible now but I've had a mild migraine for days so probably nothing to do with the vaccine.

 

[Dystopiary]

Double jabbed up - six weeks after my first Pfizer they were more than happy to give me my second. Feel terrible now but I've had a mild migraine for days so probably nothing to do with the vaccine.

Hope you feel better soon!

 

[souljacker]

Just had my second moderna jab at the madjeski stadium in reading. Feel fine at the moment but side effects didn't kick in last time until day 2 anyway. Feel pretty pleased with myself though!

 

[TopCat]

I’m thinking of blagging another jab. Astra Zeneca on top of Pfizer.

 

[gentlegreen]

aren't us older / vulnerables getting a booster anyway ?

 

[cupid_stunt]

aren't us older / vulnerables getting a booster anyway ?

Yes, but Topcat has already had 3 Pfizer jabs, now he's thinking of blagging a AZ one as well, before the booster programme is rolled out.

 

[cupid_stunt]

BTW, hence the 'I am Top Cat' poll option.

 

[TopCat]

They are offering the Astra Zeneca one at my local hospital no ID needed.

My approach to vaccine shots is being recognised albeit belatedly as the way forward.

Ethically it’s a bit lalalalala.