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Glastonbury 2011

I'm no fan of Zane Lowe but I just loved his reaction/response here to Lauren Laverne spouting utter bollocks after Beyonce's(self indulgent) set on Sunday......

And then, when Beyonce was due to arrive for her post-match interview on the studio sofa, he had to get off very quickly to erm.... puts the kids to bed....
 
nah, hes not. have met him a coupla times and he's quite cool (imo). not egotistical at all. unlike lauren fucking laverne.

I've noticed in that clip thats shes really trying to copy John Peel's style of critique/analysis of the artists.....but of course her subject matter is way off and without any of JP's substance, knowledge or depth.
 
In her defence though, they've got to fill three minutes of air time before they can go to the next thing which isn't easy.

After a gig, even a good one, the most I would normally say to someone standing next to me is something like "they were good". But they were forced to stand there and think up stuff to say. Not surprising that bollocks comes out.
 
Aye, and this is really what I was trying to say to gabi earlier.

I just think its regretably part of the times - capitalism and commercialism has invaded everything really - the type of festival go-er and what they expect out of a festival has changed over the years. The music industry and especially how/what young people consume musically has changed too.

As someone who's Glasto going was the early 90s, it seems all very glossy and insipid at times nowadays, but it's still clearly got a lot to offer across all its stages.

That change isn't new though. Whilst I loved the early 90s Glasto, my mate used to go to Glasto in the late 80s and he stopped going because he felt that it had started heading down a direction in the 90s he didn't like (amongst other things - commercialisation of music/the whole Britpop thing, travellers finding themselves not welcome, etc).

I agree...though with the added point of - just how big does it need to be?

What's the driving force other than a pissing contest to get more people through the door every year? To raise more for charities I suppose could be given as an honourable cause.

They could have easily stripped off the 3 headliners and still sold out (and cheapened the ticket price) and had a, yes I'll say it, better crowd...Aside from the promoters/sponsors, there's no shareholders to attract/keep, yet they seem to be heading one way down a path that seems to contradict everything it used to, and professes to, be, so it becomes a watered down outing for Clapham types wanting to be known as the edgy one in their office.

You'd expect it from a business with targets, shareholders etc, but Glastonbury?

It's still consistently the single best event that we're spoilt as a country to host, but I just don't get the commerciality/MoR direction?
 
I agree...though with the added point of - just how big does it need to be?

What's the driving force other than a pissing contest to get more people through the door every year? To raise more for charities I suppose could be given as an honourable cause.

They could have easily stripped off the 3 headliners and still sold out (and cheapened the ticket price) and had a, yes I'll say it, better crowd...Aside from the promoters/sponsors, there's no shareholders to attract/keep, yet they seem to be heading one way down a path that seems to contradict everything it used to, and professes to, be, so it becomes a watered down outing for Clapham types wanting to be known as the edgy one in their office.

You'd expect it from a business with targets, shareholders etc, but Glastonbury?

It's still consistently the single best event that we're spoilt as a country to host, but I just don't get the commerciality/MoR direction?

I have to admit to not noticing the MoR direction but then I spent most of my time there this year in the small clubs and sound systems. The best thing about Glasto for me is that it can be whatever you make it.

It is so tedious to see people who haven't been for years tell everyone that it isn't like it used to be. Why not go and find out? I went in the 80's and the 90's and have experienced most of the rave era and all that stuff and I loved that and love this. What is the point of making comparisons? That was then, this is now; things move on.
 
I hate to see people bringing class into it. What I liked was bumping into people from all walks of life rather than just the crusties or hippies or whoever you guys think own Glastonbury.

This festival I hung out with 6 girls from Hull who work in Casinos, 2 couples who were working class scousers, a big group of students, a telecoms engineer who was there with two artists, a few locals, along with a load of other people whose background didn't come up in conversation.

I enjoyed spending time with all of them.
 
I have to admit to not noticing the MoR direction but then I spent most of my time there this year in the small clubs and sound systems. The best thing about Glasto for me is that it can be whatever you make it.

It is so tedious to see people who haven't been for years tell everyone that it isn't like it used to be. Why not go and find out? I went in the 80's and the 90's and have experienced most of the rave era and all that stuff and I loved that and love this. What is the point of making comparisons? That was then, this is now; things move on.

That's true. This is my first time since I was 15 experiencing glasto from the 'outside', i.e. watching it on TV, and what they show doesn't give you any idea of what 99% of glasto is actually like nowadays. Most of the time when I'm there the idea that just a couple of minutes walk away you can watch some world famous band that's also being broadcast live on national TV, is such a bizarre concept because it feels more like that stuff is a whole other world away.
 
I took people's advice from off here. I didn't see U2, Beyonce, Coldplay. The main headline acts.

I did see the Wu Tang Clan, Tinie Tempah and Paul Simon at Pyramid Stage but only cause thats where they were and I would have gone wherever they were.
 
I have to admit to not noticing the MoR direction but then I spent most of my time there this year in the small clubs and sound systems. The best thing about Glasto for me is that it can be whatever you make it.

It is so tedious to see people who haven't been for years tell everyone that it isn't like it used to be. Why not go and find out? I went in the 80's and the 90's and have experienced most of the rave era and all that stuff and I loved that and love this. What is the point of making comparisons? That was then, this is now; things move on.
lol I spent most of my time raving in Shangri la and Arcadia too :cool: Oh and saw Nextmen at Pussy Parlure when it was pissing with rain Friday night.
 
It is so tedious to see people who haven't been for years tell everyone that it isn't like it used to be. Why not go and find out? I went in the 80's and the 90's and have experienced most of the rave era and all that stuff and I loved that and love this. What is the point of making comparisons? That was then, this is now; things move on.

It seems to be trendy to bash something that you dont like but other people do. Its the way of the urban75, innit.
 
no that's bollocks
i can't afford to go anymore unless working and i imagine it is the same for many
lots of urbs have been in the past, went to this one and will go again, some will slag it off for various reasons and most will love it as always, so what
it's a fuckin discussion board
 
Got back from my first time at Glasto late last night. Absolutely loved it, although I had a fair few moments of hating it too.

The worst bits were mostly due to the mud. Even though it wasn't that bad it just made life that bit more difficult, having to trudge everywhere for a couple of days to see anything, on top of having to trudge around the site picking litter. The actual picking litter in the mud was much easier than I thought it would be as there's much less of it than when it's dry, it was just the extra trudging that was a slog. And having the flip-flops I had to buy on Sunday after my platform flip-flops broke (three times, making me miss Lykke Li :mad:) get completely stuck in just about the only mud left on site at 3am on Sunday night/Monday morning was quite upsetting...

But! I had a wonderful time meeting lots of random people - my phone packed up when it got wet so I spent lots of time having adventures on my own.

Janelle Monae's set was just the most awesome thing in the world. She is SUCH a star. Great voice, and songs, and performance and band and everything you could possibly want from a live show. Probably the most fun I've had at any gig bar Bowie at the Hanover Grand. And although when I first heard her stuff I couldn't make any sense of a press comparison of her to Ziggy Stardust, I could actually see what the reviewer meant during that show. I think I'm in love :D

Asian Dub Foundation had me dancing a lot though sadly I had to run away to the loo (not their fault) in the middle of the set. Pulp were excellent, but I agree with whoever said earlier that having them on the Park stage wasn't the best idea. I could see because I was standing on a handy bench, but most people would have had sod all view and there were no screens.

South East corner was wonderful and I could have spent my entire time between there and the stone circle. The Arcadia spectacular had me jumping up and down and clapping my hands like a small, excitable child and I was even in a good enough mood to dance to house in the London Underground. (I know it's not fashionable, but *please* just a bit of techno, somewhere, PLEASE!!!).

Roll on 2013 - I want to go back :cool:

I think we had about 20k in Arcadia last night for the show. If I'm right, that probably counts as the fourth largest stage at Glastonbury, for the 45 mins or so that the show kicks out. Michael came down to watch the whole thing.

Nothing like Arcadia anywhere else in Europe. Mutant vehicles out in the crowd, blasting them with CO2 and lighting them up with distress flares. Four million volts coming off the top of the rig arcing into people in cages hanging from crane arms atop the rig.

I was flagging a bit at our crew party, so went up to the Stone Circle where there were a few thousand up for dawn, and then on to underground piano bar, which has no specific closing time - they just keep going with their weirdness until noone is left standing. Irish travellers run that one. It's in John Peel's memoirs and was resurrected about three years ago. Awesome.
Fuck - I found the piano bar but got there a couple of hours before it opened on Friday and didn't get a chance to go back...

I'd love to see the late area do their own thing collectively. Might happen at brownfield site in London this/next year.
*much excitement!*

It's not racist if you don't like Beyonce and JZ because of their music. Seriously, it's not.
This is undoubtedly true. However there is often quite a bit more going on in the background to how come some acts are promoted to some people at some times and places and how that contributes to how an act will be received. Race does play a part in that. And there are also a shed load of people who will claim and even believe that race (probably more likely perceived 'otherness') isn't their motivation for not finding something appealing. (And, as I said first, there will of course be some people who straightforwardly just think the music is crap!)

I agree...though with the added point of - just how big does it need to be?

What's the driving force other than a pissing contest to get more people through the door every year? To raise more for charities I suppose could be given as an honourable cause.

They could have easily stripped off the 3 headliners and still sold out (and cheapened the ticket price) and had a, yes I'll say it, better crowd...Aside from the promoters/sponsors, there's no shareholders to attract/keep, yet they seem to be heading one way down a path that seems to contradict everything it used to, and professes to, be, so it becomes a watered down outing for Clapham types wanting to be known as the edgy one in their office.
At Michael Eavis' Meltdown talk the other week, he did say he didn't want it to get any bigger. Perhaps a realisation that it is in danger? (says she without any previous Glasto knowledge.) I can well imagine it being quite easy to go with advice about how to make things bigger, better, more contemporary and dynamic for a while before you stop and think, hang on, this isn't a direction worth continuing...
 
Great review Mation, glad your first was mostly positive! See you there in 2013 then :D

festivaldeb and I have not long been back, we were on site Sunday 19th to this morning (Tues) so we had a pretty full on time. As in exhausting!

I'll do my 'Glasto 2011 plusses and minuses' highlights later, when I'm less knackered. We need to catch up with some iPlayer footage now tho' cos we missed a fair few acts we wanted to see ....

'More later' ;)
 
Great review Mation, glad your first was mostly positive! See you there in 2013 then :D

festivaldeb and I have not long been back, we were on site Sunday 19th to this morning (Tues) so we had a pretty full on time. As in exhausting!

I'll do my 'Glasto 2011 plusses and minuses' highlights later, when I'm less knackered. We need to catch up with some iPlayer footage now tho' cos we missed a fair few acts we wanted to see ....

'More later' ;)
Ah yes, an iPlayer evening is in store for me, I think - I missed loads of stuff I had wanted to see as I was too busy down Shangri La way!

Understood, althoigh I was being pretty specific at the time:)

Glad you enjoyed it!
Ta :) And my comments weren't really directed at you, although I was replying to your post, iyswim.
 
That was great!

I'll upload more later, but here's one for starters.

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You can buy this one as a print from www.witnessimages.com (Ed, hope it's ok to mention that just this once).


I was waving at you but I don't think you saw me :(
 
Haha - just remembered Jarvis Cocker telling the crowd that the police had wanted to search through shit samples from the loos to find out whether people had been taking drugs :facepalm: and that Michael Eavis had given them a resounding no :cool:
 
Nice review Mation :)

Janelle Monae's set was just the most awesome thing in the world. She is SUCH a star. Great voice, and songs, and performance and band and everything you could possibly want from a live show. Probably the most fun I've had at any gig bar Bowie at the Hanover Grand. And although when I first heard her stuff I couldn't make any sense of a press comparison of her to Ziggy Stardust, I could actually see what the reviewer meant during that show. I think I'm in love :D

She's just amazing - what I saw of her set at Glast looked great - I really need to get to see her live soon.

Asian Dub Foundation had me dancing a lot though sadly I had to run away to the loo (not their fault) in the middle of the set. Pulp were excellent, but I agree with whoever said earlier that having them on the Park stage wasn't the best idea. I could see because I was standing on a handy bench, but most people would have had sod all view and there were no screens.

Not seen ADF since probably 2000 time but they were fierce the last time I saw them :cool:
 
That was great!

I was waving at you but I don't think you saw me :(

That's the highest cherry picker I've done so far - I couldn't make anyone out, and it took a second viewing from the (lower) scaffold tower to actually follow some elements of the show. So almost no chance of seeing anyone. :)
 
Just got home haven't read all the thread.

it was brilliant and apalling in equal parts :D

Just to mention Morrisey - I thought he was majestic. Loved him.


Only act I would stand in pouring rain for. My younger kids (16 & 18) saw him at the Ironworks in Inverness last week -tiny little venue - they adore him too.

And BB King, my god he could teach just about every other act there a thing or ten. a privilege to see him.:)

Will post more later including impressive pix of William's wristbands and laminates :D
 
Just watched Beyonce's set on iPlayer and she was ace. Kinda wish I'd stayed rather than run to avoid the walk of death up that new one way system to the SE corner only to get overcome with tiredness to the point I nearly fell asleep standing up.

Didn't really see enough to my shame, but the mud wears me down and I can't be arsed to wade through it.

Got loads of stuff. So many tents left. I got a nice 4 man and helped two stewards acquire a gelert twister 3's which are the new style pop up tent.
 
Just watched Beyonce's set on iPlayer and she was ace. Kinda wish I'd stayed rather than run to avoid the walk of death up that new one way system to the SE corner only to get overcome with tiredness to the point I nearly fell asleep standing up.

Didn't really see enough to my shame, but the mud wears me down and I can't be arsed to wade through it.

Got loads of stuff. So many tents left. I got a nice 4 man and helped two stewards acquire a gelert twister 3's which are the new style pop up tent.

Aye we got a few fucking whopper tents when we were leaving, why on earth do people leave essentially brand new tents worth 100's of pounds?? madness
 
If you don't have somewhere to dry it (a garden etc) you're probably best off leaving it and writing it off as an expense.
 
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