8ball
Decolonise colons!
Some good meta-analysis work was done on this in 2007 - how old is the book that you are reading, out of interest (it may mention this study if fairly recent)?
Feminism and a world designed for men
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Some good meta-analysis work was done on this in 2007 - how old is the book that you are reading, out of interest (it may mention this study if fairly recent)?
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
Women are 50% more likely to be mis diagnosed following a heart attack. Female heart attack symptoms are often described as 'atypical' when what they is they mean is not the same as men's.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
2019. Perez sites dozens and dozens of studies from all over the world.
Asprin paper was from 2005 and bit about it actually being 'harmful in the majority of patients' was from a 2011 study and 2015 study says low dose of asprin is 'ineffectual or harmful in the majority of women in primary prevention of cancer and heart disease.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
Invisible Women was the reason I started this thread - but its taking me ages to read it as every page makes me livid with rage!
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Yeah, I think I might have said all of this earlier in the thread about sticking it on the list. The Royal Society rates the book quite highly.
I work in the clinical trials industry and am quite interested in the failings of the whole setup, which are many.
As are a lot of people in the industry tbf.
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Boudicca
Seaside Queen
I'm a woman taking both aspirin and statins, can you please report back once you have read it?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think you might get an answer a few decades earlier by speaking to friendofdorothy
I do need to bump this book up the list a bit..
Also, if you’ve been taking this stuff for a bit, I can’t say much aside from finding what you can and speaking to your GP. Cardiac prophylactic stuff is way outside my area.
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friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
No please don't ask me! I can only quote the book. I have little understanding of medical trails, statistics or data, so I'm not the best person to ask. I already had a deep mistrust of medical practice, big pharma and all drugs in general, before I read this book.I think you might get an answer a few decades earlier by speaking to friendofdorothy
I do need to bump this book up the list a bit..
Also, if you’ve been taking this stuff for a bit, I can’t say much aside from finding what you can and speaking to your GP. Cardiac prophylactic stuff is way outside my area.
When my GP next mentions statins, high blood pressure or diabetes - I will ask if any drug prescribed was actually tested on female humans.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I don’t think you’ll find an established statin which hasn’t been tested on female humans at all at this point in time, but asking whether the evidence for effectiveness supports using it for your particular condition might help.
For example, statins are fairly useless in otherwise healthy women for high cholesterol, but are still useful when there is established heart disease*.
*- from a very surface level reading. All “I am not a doctor” type disclaimers apply.
For example, statins are fairly useless in otherwise healthy women for high cholesterol, but are still useful when there is established heart disease*.
*- from a very surface level reading. All “I am not a doctor” type disclaimers apply.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I only got about a third of the way through that book friendofdorothy because it was making me so angry that I couldn't function.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
Yes.
... there's no problem so we don't measure it / our service is debased on available data paradox .....infuriating!
... there's no problem so we don't measure it / our service is debased on available data paradox .....infuriating!
Raheem
Well-Known Member
On the radio today, programme about fad diets. Typically initially only properly tested on obese men, because that's somehow traditional. But, it was claimed, often harmful to women. So, intermittent fasting appears beneficial to both the mental and physical health of men, but, it has been found, causes anxiety and weight gain in women.
(IANAD. What I have typed is a report based on something I heard on the radio. Do not take it as gospel. Do not pass Go. Do not ask admins for my IP address so you can sue me.)
(IANAD. What I have typed is a report based on something I heard on the radio. Do not take it as gospel. Do not pass Go. Do not ask admins for my IP address so you can sue me.)
mango5
Endeavour era
Recent (open access) BMJ article 'Gender-related data missingness, imbalance and bias in global health surveys' may be of interest to those who prefer a more conventionally scientific account of some of the issues. It's also a lot shorter than CCP's book. 8ball might find enough time to read it.
mango5
Endeavour era
This research group is focused on transport https://closethedatagap.soton.ac.uk/
mango5
Endeavour era
This report looks at impact of the 'gender data gap' on understanding attacks on healthcare workers ( I think.. I find the language a bit confusing even though it's a policy paper not a journal article)
mango5
Endeavour era
I'm putting these here to pull away from the medical focus back to broader issues. Just learned a new term "shecession" 
voxeu.org
Cross-country evidence on COVID-19 ‘she-cessions’ | VOX, CEPR Policy Portal
Early evidence from the COVID-19 recession suggested that women’s employment rates were falling disproportionately, portending a possible ‘she-cession’. Drawing on quarterly data from 38 advanced and emerging market economies, this column documents the extent and persistence of pandemic-induced...
chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
I was talking to a bloke I know the other day about windsurfing, which I've done, & I just found out he teaches. And he was talking about a lad's weekend he and my OH & some other blokes are arranging. And then he said 'we'll take all the boy's toys, windsurfers, surfboards, bodyboards etc'.
Boys toys? Boys toys!!!????
I'd just literally said I used to windsurf myself
I picked him up on it (goodnaturedly), and he still defended his use of the term. Honestly. There is still so much work to do
Boys toys? Boys toys!!!????
I'd just literally said I used to windsurf myself
I picked him up on it (goodnaturedly), and he still defended his use of the term. Honestly. There is still so much work to do
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Maybe better to read the rest all at once and accept a burst of enormous rage at the end.
mango5
Endeavour era
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
my thinking - other people's mmv - is that if a book is making you incandescent with anger perhaps it's best to read it all rather than stretch out the anger. it's just an opinion, it's not like i said 'put the book down so you don't get riled so much', which would be a real
moment. the worst things in my view in reading a book for ages with only a page or two read at a time are it's stopping you reading other things and it's very easy to end up not finishing it.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
This is my attitude to life and this is why the people I know in real life think I'm a psychopath
mango5
Endeavour era
The sad thing is that enraging moments rooted in a 'world designed for men' are a daily experience for many women. YMMV.
ETA from the OP
... and advice on managing that rage isn't helpful. CCP's book and other sources including this thread are a way of becoming better informed and possibly better equipped to address the source of the problem.
ETA from the OP
... and advice on managing that rage isn't helpful. CCP's book and other sources including this thread are a way of becoming better informed and possibly better equipped to address the source of the problem.
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Been there, done that, read the book... kinda, ok, still reading the bookmy thinking - other people's mmv - is that if a book is making you incandescent with anger perhaps it's best to read it all rather than stretch out the anger. it's just an opinion, it's not like i said 'put the book down so you don't get riled so much', which would be a real
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
Yes. Its not Iike managing my rage will help me or the world. Avoiding being overwhelmed is keeping me alive, which helps me at least, and is giving me time to develop new strategies.
I'm still angry that my mother taught me that expressing anger wasn't ladylike.Took me a long time to realise ladylike= doormat.
It's the same thing as today's blokey advice to 'calm down love'
My anger is not a problem or why I started this thread. On a global scale women's anger, like our voices in general, is routinely ignored. That is the problem.
mango5
Endeavour era
In one of my day jobs I just found an article suggesting one (of many) reasons why women entrepreneurs are less successful than 'entrepreneurs' in general (i.e. men). It's called We Ask Men to Win and Women Not to Lose: Closing the Gender Gap in Startup Funding. You may not have full access but I'm putting it here because the title alone made me cross, let alone the details.
Oh cripes another rabbit hole. You watch Prof Pragya Agarwal talk about her forthcoming book Hysterical: Exploding the Myth of Gendered Emotions livestreamed on Youtube at lunchtime on 15th September via this site.
Oh cripes another rabbit hole. You watch Prof Pragya Agarwal talk about her forthcoming book Hysterical: Exploding the Myth of Gendered Emotions livestreamed on Youtube at lunchtime on 15th September via this site.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i hope you didn't read what i said that way, that wasn't my intention at all
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