Feminism and a world designed for men

[Athos]

A woman in Canada has done an interesting experiment - in a local council meeting where women and men were pretty evenly represented, she knitted one colour while men spoke and another while women spoke. Fairly predictable results : Knitting shows 'men talk too much'

Women are the worst hit by poverty. I heard on More or Less the other day that when they transferred CB to mothers, the spending on children's and women's clothing increased and spending on men's clothing decreased. So men spend on themselves rather than their children. I suspect if more women were involved at all levels of society, there would be a big shift towards flexibility, better childcare, improved elderly care provision and better services. Women are overwhelmingly responsible for caring in our society so it would benefit everyone if more of us were in decision-making positions. And no, not all women will do that. But the greater the number of women at the top, the greater the chance that some of those more welfare focused policies will start to trickle down.

Whilst I don't share your optimism about what would be achieved by more women in power under capitalism (I think you underestimate the importance of roles in the structure, and overestimate the importance of some facets of the identities of those in the roles), I agree it's something we should try (until capitalism ends), because it's better than nothing, and - when recognised that it's not an end in of itself - can't do any harm.

 

[trashpony]

Whilst I don't share your optimism about what would be achieved by more women in power under capitalism (I think you underestimate the importance of roles in the structure, and overestimate the importance of some facets of the identities of those in the roles), I agree it's something we should try (until capitalism ends), because it's better than nothing, and - when recognised that it's not an end in of itself - can't do any harm.

I'm a glass full sort of person.

 

[Athos]

I'm a glass full sort of person.

I'm more of a 'fuck the glass, swig it from the bottle to numb the pain' kinda guy.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Interested item on 'womens hour' on bbcRadio 4 this morning someone talking about how the changes to our benefits system have disproportionaly affected and impoverished women.

I'll find a link when I can.

 

[8ball]

I'm a glass full sort of person.

Not “half full”?

 

[wayward bob]

soz, i prolly picked the wrong thread for the question, but this is active and i'm curious...

are there many afab posters who find themselves on the "members online now" list?

how many women posting here are happy to advertise their textual availability via the tools available?

this is a xenforo thing as much as an urban thing, but still speaks to the ability/inability to own a "public" profile, to me, at least.

 

[8ball]

soz, i prolly picked the wrong thread for the question, but this is active and i'm curious...

are there many afab posters who find themselves on the "members online now" list?

how many women posting here are happy to advertise their textual availability via the tools available?

this is a xenforo thing as much as an urban thing, but still speaks to the ability/inability to own a "public" profile, to me, at least.

Side post, but “afab”?

 

[wayward bob]

assigned female at birth

 

[8ball]

assigned female at birth

Thanks.

My first thought (for “urban standard acronym” reasons) was “all feminists are bastards” - but I was pretty certain that was wrong. at self

 

[wayward bob]

Thanks.

My first thought (for “urban standard acronym” reasons) was “all feminists are bastards” - but I was pretty certain that was wrong. at self

i speak french, which i hoped in a very minor way to pass on to the kids, whether they like it or not.

i got a powder box with a cunning mechanism and a setting for O (ouvert) and F (fermé) and asked kid2 what it stood for...

"Open... ... and ... Fuckin shut... "

i lolled

 

[8ball]

i speak french, which i hoped in a very minor way to pass on to the kids, whether they like it or not.

i got a powder box with a cunning mechanism and a setting for O (ouvert) and F (fermé) and asked kid2 what it stood for...

"Open... ... and ... Fuckin shut... "

i lolled

Well, I hoped you taught them the thing about the letters on the taps.

 

[wayward bob]

Well, I hoped you taught them the thing about the letters on the taps.

it's a while since i've been on a ferry ...

C=chaud F=froid?

 

[wayward bob]

btw, are we not verging into feminism and a world designed for french men? (a totally different thing )

 

[8ball]

btw, are we not verging into feminism and a world designed for french men? (a totally different thing )

Well, I quite liked the red and blue on the taps.

 

[wayward bob]

Well, I quite liked the red and blue on the taps.

occidental normatism

 

[8ball]

occidental normatism

I had you down as the person who speaks normal fucking English and then you come out with that!

 

[scifisam]

soz, i prolly picked the wrong thread for the question, but this is active and i'm curious...

are there many afab posters who find themselves on the "members online now" list?

how many women posting here are happy to advertise their textual availability via the tools available?

this is a xenforo thing as much as an urban thing, but still speaks to the ability/inability to own a "public" profile, to me, at least.

I'm not. You're right, though, that there might be a difference between how many women have made the effort to make sure they're not in the members online list as opposed to men. I think it's sensible for anyone to do and a lot of the men on here have been on social media for a long time, so they might do it too.

There's another site that I've been on for about 17 years and a lot of people there still assume I'm male. If you can't see someone, they're male.

 

[wayward bob]

If you can't see someone, they're male.

my assumption here is that the invisible posters are predominantly women. mysterious that we might want to hold onto a vestige of anonymity? or entirely fucking rational?

 

[8ball]

my assumption here is that the invisible posters are predominantly women. mysterious that we might want to hold onto a vestige of anonymity? or entirely fucking rational?

Although the male posters can also turn into bats whenever they want.

This post may have been breaking certain ‘patriarchy club’ rules, but I won’t tell them if you don’t.

 

[mango5]

my assumption here is that the invisible posters are predominantly women. mysterious that we might want to hold onto a vestige of anonymity? or entirely fucking rational?

You might be overthinking this. IIRC when this has been discussed before loads of posters don't think about making their online status invisible, and/or forget they've done it. The reasons are varied. But I don't remember gendered differences but of course its highly unlikely that the topic was ever raised

 

[wayward bob]

You might be overthinking this.

checks time of post. yup

 

[Pickman's model]

Toilets! are new buildings built with more cubicles for women yet?

Two female loos for every male one, demand experts

 

[Manter]

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Two female loos for every male one, demand experts

If only!

Reality is other way round

 

[Pickman's model]

If only!

Reality is other way round

Toilets whether for men or women so rarely receive the consideration they deserve, and certainly simply in number of toilets women lose out. The starting point seems equality in square feet but inequality in every other way.

 

[MickiQ]

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I totally agree with this, one truly great advantage of being a man is the ability to piss standing up and the throughput in male loos is far greater than it is in female ones. The last time I went the theater with Mrs Q, I was done before she had even reached the khazi door and she was still queueing in the corridor. Even if female loos contained the same number of cubicles as male loos contained urinals and cubicles combined they would still lose out due to taking longer per individual.

 

[mango5]

Toilets whether for men or women so rarely receive the consideration they deserve, and certainly simply in number of toilets women lose out. The starting point seems equality in square feet but inequality in every other way.

Woman lose out more

 

[Mrs Miggins]

....Even if female loos contained the same number of cubicles as male loos contained urinals and cubicles combined they would still lose out due to taking longer per individual.

Yes - male clothing has been cleverly deisgned so that you don't have to strip half off before being able to pee which means a massive time saving. Women might have many layers of garment to be removed before going to the loo.

Plus the possibility of dealing with a period while you're in there.

 

[8ball]

Yes - male clothing has been cleverly deisgned so that you don't have to strip half off before being able to pee which means a massive time saving. Women might have many layers of garment to be removed before going to the loo.

Plus the possibility of dealing with a period while you're in there.

It must take some real prior planning of when and where you're likely to need a wee. It's not like public loos are terribly abundant these days either.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

It must take some real prior planning of when and where you're likely to need a wee. It's not like public loos are terribly abundant these days either.

It can cause real anxiety. Even makes me not bother going out sometimes.

 

[colacubes]

It can cause real anxiety. Even makes me not bother going out sometimes.

Yep. I often cancel night’s out when I’ve got my period for that very reason, especially if it’s somewhere unfamiliar.