It bolsters my belief that you could go round 650 pubs tomorrow morning and take out 325 men and 325 women selected at random and they would do a better job of resolving this unfortunate situation than 650 "professional" politicians
It is really not Corbyn that made the Remain campaign look bad. The Remainers did that - and continue to do that - all by themselves. It's true Corbyn lacked enthusiasm in the Remain campaign, but the rest of the Remainers lacked any clue about what matters to people outside the London bubble, how to communicate with them, or who should front their campaigns. Tony fucking Blair and Alaisdar fucking Campbell dear god.
All that's needed for a convincing remain win in a second ref is TB and a'f'c to make it known they favour no deal. No one wants to be on the same side as them so it's not to late for them to achieve a Remain victory
Why pubs for fucksake ?
Following that result as tho less than 15% of the electorate voting BP was in any way a previously unseen decisive result.
I'll take wetherspoons, you take youngs and Badgers will trawl fullers
Agreed.... all I can take from these results is a massive confirmation of the leave vote in the referendum, I don't particularly like that but I don't think there's any other reading that isn't deluded.
To be honest I haven't been in any pub in about 6 years...
Well personally I would go with 650 primary schools myself but I agree with your general point
Likewise.
No, scub that; my bad...thought it said hours...
I see no reason to leave the pupils bereft of teachers
Perhaps they were suggesting the pupils.
How so? I don't see any way of playing with those results that doesn't just confirm a very even split. Brexit parties up 7.5 points on last time but antibrexit also way up. And a fuzzy area in between. Tory and Labour losing votes both ways.
It's interesting really, the hardcore Second Referendum lot want Remain on the ballot - but in doing so they're opening the door for No Deal to be the other option.
The problem here is that Leave, and leaving, is a definitive change which opens up possibilities of something different. Remain, meanwhile, appears to be - as the vote was - made up of varying shades which range from 'Let's go back to when things were good in 2012', 'Let's get back to normal', 'Lets undo austerity', Let's build socialism etc etc, which are all in conflict with each other - much like the Remain message in 2016.
Simply saying, 'well people will have changed their minds' is true, and yet the campaign itself to convince the 20% odd in the middle could still fail - meaning the People's Vote campaign could ensure No Deal
They could manage the country in between their lessons, they would then probably be putting it at least as much effort as the current shower.
Because the single-issue party beat all the main parties into the distance, only a few months after being started.
Given the option, 60% would look the other way, and the rest would split about 1/3 each for Remain, WTO and get a deal. If pushed the abstainers would probably also split something like that.
Isn't it just UKIP under a new name ? (Which in turn was the fartage party)
That's a pity as all our politicians are a rotten shower
