Local Elections 2023

[tommers]

He looks a lot happier than the other people in that picture.

 

[The39thStep]

Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew

 

[Hollis]

They find it quite easy to put some sensible things in manifestos at times, partly because on the national level they know they will never be tested by gaining real power.

On reflection for some reason I find the idea of being involved in a political party that doesn't have a hope in hell of being elected quite appealing.

 

[xenon]

Think I saw them live at a club in Leeds in the early-ish 90s. Some place above the Merion Centre iirc.

Think that might have been the same night I was asked if I'd do a porn shoot.

I saw them live at Marilyns nightclub in Hereford circa 1995. By accident…

 

[Puddy_Tat]

directly elected mayor in Bedford - vermin gain from lib dems by a tiny margin - benefiting from government changing mayoral elections from STV to FPTP...

 

[MickiQ]

tory candidate died suddenly

Not sure how responsible I should feel about that

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Not sure how responsible I should feel about that

It's an opportunity for you to stand for election - the Urban 75 Party. Free drugs for everyone.

 

[Dom Traynor]

Reminds me of office parties tbh.

Starmer emailing a scan of his arse to the PM?

 

[JimW]

Starmer emailing a scan of his arse to the PM?

It's a better speaker.

 

[cesare]

Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew

In the style of the Battle of Cable Street mural

 

[quiet guy]

Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew

First they imposed an LEZ area. Then they tried to take my vote by insisting on photo ID but the final straw was when I couldn't get a Decaf Latte.

 

[quiet guy]

Dp

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Two massive factors - the i360 - & the most recent is their LTN proposal which is a colossal fuck up for their local support base.

The LTN certainly did for them in Hannover; it was a classic solution looking for a problem.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[cupid_stunt]

Horsham District Council in West Sussex is going, going, gone...

...to the LDs who have secured a majority of 25 out of 48 seats so far, back in 2019 the Tories had 32. LDs 13 & Greens 2.

Ended-up with the Tories almost being wiped out.

 

[marty21]

You Tories took a hell of a beating

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Think I saw them live at a club in Leeds in the early-ish 90s. Some place above the Merion Centre iirc.

Think that might have been the same night I was asked if I'd do a porn shoot.

God the Merion Centre! Haven't thought about that for years!!

 

[redsquirrel]

God the Merion Centre! Haven't thought about that for years!!

Still there. Jumbo Records moved back in

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[cupid_stunt]

Interesting map of the south-east, and how that traditional blue wall has all but collapsed completely.

Tories have over all control of just two councils in Kent (Dartford + Sevenoaks), only one in Surrey (Reigate & Banstead), none whatsoever in East Sussex (no elections in Hastings), and only one in West Sussex - Adur District, which had no elections this year, otherwise I suspect that would have gone to at least NOC.



Here in West Sussex, the three big surprises were:

Horsham - LibDems taking overall control from the Tories.
Chichester - LibDems taking overall control from a Tory/Indy administration.
Mid-Sussex (Haywards Health, Burgess Hill, East Grinstead, etc.) - Tories losing overall control - and where the LDs 20, Greens 4, Lab 1 and/or some Indy's 5 working together could take control. Tories only on 20.

Arun (Bognor, Littlehampton etc.) remains no overall control - Tories 20, Indy's 6, LDs 14, Lab 8, Greens 6, those three in bold could take control from the Tory/Indy's.
Both Crawley + Worthing were held by Labour, which gained overall control of each last year.
Adur (Shoreham/Lancing, etc.) remains Tory overall control, because there was no elections this year.

 

[brogdale]

Interesting map of the south-east, and how that traditional blue wall has all but collapsed completely.

Tories have over all control of just two councils in Kent (Dartford + Sevenoaks), only one in Surrey (Reigate & Banstead), none whatsoever in East Sussex (no elections in Hastings), and only one in West Sussex - Adur District, which had no elections this year, otherwise I suspect that would have gone to at least NOC.

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Here in West Sussex, the three big surprises were:

Horsham - LibDems taking overall control from the Tories.
Chichester - LibDems taking overall control from a Tory/Indy administration.
Mid-Sussex (Haywards Health, Burgess Hill, East Grinstead, etc.) - Tories losing overall control - and where the LDs 20, Greens 4, Lab 1 and/or some Indy's 5 working together could take control. Tories only on 20.

Arun (Bognor, Littlehampton etc.) remains no overall control - Tories 20, Indy's 6, LDs 14, Lab 8, Greens 6, those three in bold could take control from the Tory/Indy's.
Both Crawley + Worthing were held by Labour, which gained overall control of each last year.
Adur (Shoreham/Lancing, etc.) remains Tory overall control, because there was no elections this year.

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Good overview
Still a swathe of authorities through West Kent and the Weald where the vermin have lost to NoC but remain the largest party. That said, they were well and truly fucked across the SE.

 

[brogdale]

Should be red all along the N.Kent coast, but Swale & Canterbury both have 3 or even 4 way NoC mixes now. Although, tbf to Swale, one reason why the LP can't yet mop up is the significant numbers of indies who broke the vermin stranglehold last time around and have held on.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Good overview
Still a swathe of authorities through West Kent and the Weald where the vermin have lost to NoC but remain the largest party. That said, they were well and truly fucked across the SE.

Aye, it's hard to tell with some of the NOC councils as to which way they will go, especially when there's a number of Indies - IME they tend to back the Tories, but not always.

I am interested with what happens in Mid-Sussex where the Tories and LDs are both on 20, or LDs/Lab/Greens and Tories/Indies are both on 25 - very messy! But in Arun the Tories/Indies are only on 26 compared with LDs/Lab/Greens on 28.

 

[Dogsauce]

In terms of where the parties are at, rather than the actual local election seats/councils, I'd have thought it's not all that great for Labour,

It would leave them short of an overall majority in Westminster and:


I haven't looked beyond the headlines and which seats Labour are winning/not winning. There are also a lot of independent votes in play there that will be resdistributed at the general election. And a 7% lead is of course a decent lead. Same time, this feels like nothing more than the normal reaction you get against a governing party, mid term, nothing like the kind of wipeout that might have occurred in the Truss 'era'.

MSN

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Is that doing a direct projection based on vote totals from these elections? Because that’s a bit dodgy due to lots of areas not voting (nothing where I live), so it’s not a true representation of the electorate’s will. Plus the usual domination of local issues in some areas which won’t have as much of an effect in a GE.

 

[two sheds]

Lovely seeing the tories getting a good kicking. I wonder how much actual change it will mean to people seeing as how they're still setting the budgets so councils will be under the same limitations and have to make similar budget cuts. Government's also likely to cut non-tory council funding even more I'd have thought.

 

[iona]

innit.
Lad lives down the Level end, not up on the middle-class mountain.

Aka muesli mountain

Labour majority in Brighton & Hove, first time in a long time! Massive shift in the Hanover & Elm Grove ward which has been the Green stronghold for all of that time - off you fuck!

E2a: I wouldn’t trust the rich middle class hippies that have voted Green for years who have now shifted. Scratch a hippy…

Were Labour actually any better last time? Don't entirely trust my memory on this but I'm fairly sure it was them who changed the housing register rules so you can't get on the list if you've been homeless in the last five years now, and they're responsible for our recycling being so shit too iirc.

 

[Dogsauce]

Lovely seeing the tories getting a good kicking. I wonder how much actual change it will mean to people seeing as how they're still setting the budgets so councils will be under the same limitations and have to make similar budget cuts. Government's also likely to cut non-tory council funding even more I'd have thought.

This is often their strategy, fuckover local councils so they get the blame and potential electoral fallout when the GE comes around.

 

[Dogsauce]

Presumably most of the ex-UKIP and crank right vote will have fallen back onto the Tories, and yet they still did this appallingly.

GE looks lost, expect some scorched earth policies over the next year or so, stay strong everybody.

 

[brogdale]

Aka muesli mountain

Yes, that's it; I really should have remembered that!

 

[cupid_stunt]

Some of the reporting has been shit, the Argus (Sussex daily) has reported Labour winning 3 extra seats in Worthing, when it was only 1.

A couple of BBC reports have made the same false claim, and in one they went onto even quoting the Labour leader as being pleased with winning 1 extra seat.

In Worthing, Labour - who were already the largest party - took three seats from the Tories.

In a tweet, Beccy Cooper, the leader of Worthing Borough Council, thanked local residents for the election result.

"Fantastic to hold all our seats and to gain an additional fabulous councillor in Castle Ward," she said.

BBC

 

[The39thStep]

In terms of where the parties are at, rather than the actual local election seats/councils, I'd have thought it's not all that great for Labour,

It would leave them short of an overall majority in Westminster and:


I haven't looked beyond the headlines and which seats Labour are winning/not winning. There are also a lot of independent votes in play there that will be resdistributed at the general election. And a 7% lead is of course a decent lead. Same time, this feels like nothing more than the normal reaction you get against a governing party, mid term, nothing like the kind of wipeout that might have occurred in the Truss 'era'.

MSN

www.msn.com

Think there are lots of ifs and buts about straight forward extrapolation of voting in these locals, especially as they didn't cover the whole UK , into a GE scenario. Overall Labour became the party with the biggest number of council seats , first time since 2002, however, they must have some anxiety about the number of votes that the Greens and others picked up. Of course, some of these votes may well go back to Labour, the Tories don't seem to be in a position to pick up votes from UKIP or Reform from these elections because both of them polled really badly.

I don't have much time for the Greens but they did pick up not only some of the 'left' Labour vote but also some of the expelled Labour members as candidates. Whilst I have doubt for example in Wythenshawe in Manchester that their success will translate into a GE vote there, if Labour do win the GE I can see the possibility of the Greens attracting the disillusioned vote rather than the far right do under Labour.

I think there is a lot of enthusiasm to get rid of the Tories, I think there is enthusiasm in some quarters for a Labour win, amongst some Labour voters for a non Corbyn led Labour Party but I can't see any real enthusiasm for Starmer himself despite the army of marketeers , influencers , speech writers and Guardian journalists.