European Elections 2019

[kebabking]

Officially?

Bargaining chip in multilateral nuclear disarmament talks.

Unofficially it's because the electorate don't trust CND members who go on cycling tours of Soviet dominated East Germany.

cfy

Oh yes, I remember.

Build (and pay for) four 19,000 ton submarines to keep the union happy, but never put them to sea to keep Corbyn happy.

Spectacular.

 

[Poi E]

There's jobs in decommissioning Europe's second most dangerous industrial building at Sellafield until 2120 (and probably much longer after that.) And then the rest of the site.

 

[brogdale]

Ian Warren's 'dominant swing' Euro Election map. Light blue ain't Brexshit party...check the key.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Ian Warren's 'dominant swing' Euro Election map. Light blue ain't Brexshit party...check the key.

View attachment 173204

That's intelligent AND beautiful

Tory members might want Brexit, Tory voters not so keen Bring on the destruction of the Tory party?

 

[Gerry1time]

That's intelligent AND beautiful

and terrifying! The Lib Dems aren't a big gene pool as a party these days, and they never were that much of one even before Nick Clegg et al turned up and fucked them over. If they won that many seats, the number of complete numpties sitting in parliament would be a sight to behold...

 

[redsquirrel]

Ian Warren's 'dominant swing' Euro Election map. Light blue ain't Brexshit party...check the key

Which again backs up the point that a number of us have been making, the Lab->LD swing will take votes it will not result in that many seats changing hands.

and terrifying! The Lib Dems aren't a big gene pool as a party these days, and they never were that much of one even before Nick Clegg et al turned up and fucked them over. If they won that many seats, the number of complete numpties sitting in parliament would be a sight to behold...

That is swing not the vote. The Tories/Lab would still win the vast majority of those light blue seats.

 

[Gerry1time]

That is swing not the vote. The Tories/Lab would still win the vast majority of those light blue seats.

I know, I was reflecting on the implications of the trend.

 

[kabbes]

Ian Warren's 'dominant swing' Euro Election map. Light blue ain't Brexshit party...check the key.

View attachment 173204

That gets much less interesting when you consider that almost all the Brexit vote was likely a swing from UKIP (who received almost the same as the BP vote last time round and were wiped out this), thus making it unsurprising that most of the swing from Con and Lab would be to Lib Dem. What it’s hiding is the swing from Con and Lab to UKIP in the first place. Logically, that must be bigger than the swing from Con to LibDem this time round because UKIP did better last time than LD did this time.

 

[Pickman's model]

and terrifying! The Lib Dems aren't a big gene pool as a party these days, and they never were that much of one even before Nick Clegg et al turned up and fucked them over. If they won that many seats, the number of complete numpties sitting in parliament would be a sight to behold...

There's at least 640 numpties in parliament now

 

[kabbes]

Let’s not forget this from earlier, which shows where the 2017 voters went. It clearly shows that the 2017 Tories overwhelmingly swung to Brexit Party

Ashcroft has some figures about where votes moved between parties and the like here - click through for more.

 

[kabbes]

I hadn’t noticed before, but the above also shows that a large swing of 2017 Labour voters was to non-voter (Lab got 40% in 2017 but only 34% of 2019 voters had voted Lab in 2017). Probably even larger than their swing to LD.

 

[hot air baboon]