Bullshitting Brexiteer hypocrite James Dyson to relocate Dyson head office from UK to Singapore

[eatmorecheese]

Why did these text conversations happen on his personal mobile? Who leaked the conversations? Are the security services taking an interest in this and why aren't other contacts (beyond those involving selfless philanthropist Dyson) being explored?

 

[MickiQ]

But I don't want it!

You'll have it and be glad of it, however he won't answer it. He will just hide his phone in the fridge

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Why did these text conversations happen on his personal mobile? Who leaked the conversations? Are the security services taking an interest in this and why aren't other contacts (beyond those involving selfless philanthropist Dyson) being explored?

Dyson is Britain's richest man, or in the top three depending on the state of the stock market. Whilst not the socialist utopia we'd all like, I don't see it being particularly strange that someone in that position has the PM's personal mobile number. Would anyone be astounded that Gates or Bezos have Biden's private number?

It was leaked by Johnson's office, on his orders.

 

[Pickman's model]

But I don't want it!

Then you should delete it. But you should have at least as much chance to lobby the pm as some fly by night tax exile

 

[bmd]

Why did these text conversations happen on his personal mobile? Who leaked the conversations? Are the security services taking an interest in this and why aren't other contacts (beyond those involving selfless philanthropist Dyson) being explored?

We can relax, safe in the knowledge that our government has our best interests at heart.

Then you should delete it. But you should have at least as much chance to lobby the pm as some fly by night tax exile

I've just looked but it's definitely not under C.

 

[teuchter]

Is the amount of tax these employees would have had to pay so large that Dyson the man or the company could not simply have reimbursed them rather than asking for rules to be changed?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Is the amount of tax these employees would have had to pay so large that Dyson the man or the company could not simply have reimbursed them rather than asking for rules to be changed?

£1m a year @ 22% in Singapore vs ~55% in the UK = £330,000 extra per person.

Dyson could have covered that, but really why should he?

 

[MickiQ]

Is the amount of tax these employees would have had to pay so large that Dyson the man or the company could not simply have reimbursed them rather than asking for rules to be changed?

But then if he did that wouldn't they be taxed on that as well?

 

[Storm Fox]

Get back to the office plebs, help keep my £130 million commercial property portfolio healthy.

Sir James Dyson: Home-working affecting competitiveness of UK firms

The inventor urged the Government to take the ‘less popular decision’ and get workers back to offices to restore the ‘competitiveness’ of UK firms.

www.independent.co.uk

For me I work far more efficiently at home, but I do know other peoples experiences vary.

 

[Cid]

He's babbling on about corporate taxes being too high now, and how 'growth has become a dirty word'.

James Dyson attacks Rishi Sunak’s ‘shortsighted, stupid’ tax policies

UK entrepreneur says economic strategy has left Britain in a ‘Covid inertia’ and calls for growth plan

www.theguardian.com

 

[ska invita]

He's babbling on about corporate taxes being too high now, and how 'growth has become a dirty word'.

James Dyson attacks Rishi Sunak’s ‘shortsighted, stupid’ tax policies

UK entrepreneur says economic strategy has left Britain in a ‘Covid inertia’ and calls for growth plan

www.theguardian.com

"the average British family will be poorer than their Polish counterpart by 2030."

Interesting claim, I wonder what it is based on

 

[alex_]

"the average British family will be poorer than their Polish counterpart by 2030."

Interesting claim, I wonder what it is based on

It’s because the polish economy is growing much faster than the UKs

Average UK families £8,800 a year worse off than in comparable countries - Nuffield Foundation

Britain’s toxic combination of low growth and high inequality has left it trailing behind...

www.nuffieldfoundation.org

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Such lack of ambition. Sod Poland. We should be like Bulgaria. Lowest corporation tax rate in Europe. They'll all be millionaires soon enough.

 

[DotCommunist]

Growth doesn't seem to be a dirty word at Sensible Labour Towers, indeed they're relying on it to fund public services, such forward thinkers. Anyway the real reason growth is becoming something to be eyerolled at is because people have clocked that line goes up means nothing to real term wages and rents

 

[Cid]

Amusingly all the articles with that Poland claim seem to be saying that the thing holding us back is inequality. And not being in the EU. Not a comment on that claim, and don't have time to read them - just not, I imagine, what Dyson was thinking of when he half-remembered the figure for his torygraph article.

 

[ska invita]

seems to be based on that FT number crunching article that did the rounds recently

Britain and the US are poor societies with some very rich people

When it comes to average household incomes, the UK may soon need to ask migrant labourers to take a pay cut

www.ft.com

absolutely incredible to me, as i know first hand the poverty of the former eastern bloc

 

[Cid]

seems to be based on that FT number crunching article that did the rounds recently

Britain and the US are poor societies with some very rich people

When it comes to average household incomes, the UK may soon need to ask migrant labourers to take a pay cut

www.ft.com

absolutely incredible to me, as i know first hand the poverty of the former eastern bloc

Britain and the US are poor societies with some very rich people | Fi…

archived 4 Oct 2022 12:50:14 UTC

archive.ph

(archive link)

And the original journo's tweet thread

Thread by @jburnmurdoch on Thread Reader App

@jburnmurdoch: NEW: income inequality in US & UK is so wide that while the richest are very well off, the poorest have a worse standard of living than the poorest in countries like Slovenia ft.com/content/ef2654… Es...…

threadreaderapp.com

Which he helpfully sums up at the top with:

Essentially, US & UK are poor societies with some very rich people.

 

[ska invita]

Amusingly all the articles with that Poland claim seem to be saying that the thing holding us back is inequality. And not being in the EU. Not a comment on that claim, and don't have time to read them - just not, I imagine, what Dyson was thinking of when he half-remembered the figure for his torygraph article.

Poland has long had the highest public approval for the EU out of all member states, precisely because EU investment is very visible and widely acknowledged and enjoyed - and at least in part because Poles have really taken to the opportunities of moving to other countries, right across the EU.

One aspect of the EU that barely gets mentioned here is that there is a degree of welfare state about it, redistributing to the poorest corners of the EU - this is undeniable in Poland - the difference between what its like now and post-1989 is staggering, but even so I am amazed to think it could overtake British average wages.

Of course this EU spending needs to be countered by the experience of the likes of Greece when being dealt with by the Troika of European Commission, European Central Bank and the IMF, but it doesnt stop the redistribution aspect from being true.

 

[Gromit]

One aspect of the EU that barely gets mentioned here is that there is a degree of welfare state about it, redistributing to the poorest corners of the EU - this is undeniable in Poland - the difference between what its like now and post-1989 is staggering, but even so I am amazed to think it could overtake British average wages.

I think you are referring to structural funds.

The objective of EU structural funding is to bring poor areas upto the GDP average of the EU. Thereby making the EU stronger as a whole.
Freedom of movement enables this too to some extent of redistribution of wealth sent back home.

Some wail and moan about other countries doing well but if your are part of the same strong trading block it benefits you too. Instead we are going to compete against Europe, Asia and the Americas. We're fucked.

 

[ska invita]

I think you are referring to structural funds.

The objective of EU structural funding is to bring poor areas upto the GDP average of the EU. Thereby making the EU stronger as a whole.
Freedom of movement enables this too to some extent of redistribution of wealth sent back home.

Some wail and moan about other countries doing well but if your are part of the same strong trading block it benefits you too. Instead we are going to compete against Europe, Asia and the Americas. We're fucked.

hard not to agree

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Poland has long had the highest public approval for the EU out of all member states, precisely because EU investment is very visible and widely acknowledged and enjoyed - and at least in part because Poles have really taken to the opportunities of moving to other countries, right across the EU.

One aspect of the EU that barely gets mentioned here is that there is a degree of welfare state about it, redistributing to the poorest corners of the EU - this is undeniable in Poland - the difference between what its like now and post-1989 is staggering, but even so I am amazed to think it could overtake British average wages.

Of course this EU spending needs to be countered by the experience of the likes of Greece when being dealt with by the Troika of European Commission, European Central Bank and the IMF, but it doesnt stop the redistribution aspect from being true.

Also poorer areas of the UK. Hastings/St Leonards got £200 million from the EU for redevelopment. Anyone thinking the UK govt was going to do similar kinds of things, well now they surely know better.

 

[not-bono-ever]

He’s a dreadful human being

 

[ska invita]

"the average British family will be poorer than their Polish counterpart by 2030."

i cannot stop thinking about this - absolutely mind-blowing to me.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I have a Dyson vacuum cleaner as they were discounted. Very good price and it sits in the corner of my room and I prefer using a dustpan and brush because I can’t stand using it’s smug plastic stupid Brexit face.

 

[weltweit]

I need a Henry replacement and am liking a Dyson wireless wall mount thingy.

It is quite expensive, I know someone who has one though and swears by it.
Very convenient if you want to vacuum out the car etc.

 

[weltweit]

I need a Henry replacement and am liking a Dyson wireless wall mount thingy.

It is quite expensive, I know someone who has one though and swears by it.
Very convenient if you want to vacuum out the car etc.

Oh I forgot, it is cordless and bagless ..

 

[Cid]

I need a Henry replacement and am liking a Dyson wireless wall mount thingy.

It is quite expensive, I know someone who has one though and swears by it.
Very convenient if you want to vacuum out the car etc.

I mean take it to suburban if it's reviews you're after...

But if you have a house, rather than smallish flat, I'd go corded; batteries won't hold out. And Dyson can fuck off, they're all marketing spiel and high prices. Dyson designs also generally look a bit shit I think; all that glossy plastic. That probably pisses me off more than it should, but the fucker is always held up as the epitome of British designers. The bladeless fans look nice, I'll give them that, but they're also apparently kind of shit (they are obviously not bladeless fans, rather they are a small extremely high RPM fan in a ducted housing).

 

[teuchter]

I live in Britain's most remainy area and clean my floors with a Dyson. Recently I replaced the battery with a non-OEM one, and feel like I'm one up on James Dyson as a result.

 

[Serge Forward]

I need a Henry replacement and am liking a Dyson wireless wall mount thingy.

It is quite expensive, I know someone who has one though and swears by it.
Very convenient if you want to vacuum out the car etc.

You know when you go to the tip, clock the number of dysons in the bottom of the small electricals skip.

 

[maomao]

Oh I forgot, it is cordless and bagless ..

Bagless are shit. All of them. You have to clean the fuckers out by hand. Get a Miele, they're brilliant and all you have to do is change a bag 2-3 times a year. Less if you're on your own I suppose.