Think Tank: UK state pension age will soon need to rise to 71

[brogdale]

19 Grand per year sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, that would be very nice.

 

[danny la rouge]

I doubt I could physically do my job at 71, even if I'm a sprightly 71. 35 more years of work is a horrible thought.

Wait, you’re 35? It feels like you’ve been here at least 20 years! Were you 12 when you joined?

I’m sorry for teaching you all those swears!

 

[marty21]

My mum worked until she was 72 , I suspect mostly so she didn't have to spend all day with my grumpy dad. I fully intend to not carry on working til I'm 72 , vague-ish plan of retiring at 62/3 - ish .

 

[nottsgirl]

I’ve got my retirement countdown on my phone set for the day of my 68th birthday. I’m not changing it yet but we all know when think tanks start floating ideas like this the government aren’t far behind.

 

[Rebelda]

Wait, you’re 35? It feels like you’ve been here at least 20 years! Were you 12 when you joined?

I’m sorry for teaching you all those swears!

36, I joined when I was 15 and I already knew the swears

 

[brogdale]

I’ve got my retirement countdown on my phone set for the day of my 68th birthday. I’m not changing it yet but we all know when think tanks start floating ideas like this the government aren’t far behind.

Exactly; they're 'rolling the pitch' for even more pain for working people.

 

[nottsgirl]

Also, all the rich people who sit down all day at work will have their own pensions and retire early while all the people who do manual jobs will rely on the non existent state pension and their pitiful People’s Pension and retire late. It doesn’t seem quite fair to me.

 

[brogdale]

Also, all the rich people who sit down all day at work will have their own pensions and retire early while all the people who do manual jobs will rely on the non existent state pension and their pitiful People’s Pension and retire late. It doesn’t seem quite fair to me.

That's class-war, right there

 

[mentalchik]

have no private pensions....have 6 years till retirement age but i am fully expecting to have to carry on working if i still physically can do it....am starting to get niggles now.....

 

[Elpenor]

Nah, in reality it is not hypothecated...

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Yes this is correct, but isn’t really the point is it.

 

[iona]

36, I joined when I was 15 and I already knew the swears

Same, minus a few from both numbers.

Think I've always just assumed that if I don't die before I reach state pension age, it'll either be about 80 by then or have been replaced with a rebranded workhouse run by serco / soylent green factory.

 

[Numbers]

Same, minus a few from both numbers.

Think I've always just assumed that if I don't die before I reach state pension age, it'll either be about 80 by then or have been replaced with a rebranded workhouse run by serco / soylent green factory.

There's 2 of us?

 

[weepiper]

I doubt I could physically do my job at 71, even if I'm a sprightly 71. 35 more years of work is a horrible thought.

I 100% couldn't do my job at 71. No way. It's already taking a physical toll at 46. What are they expecting people who have had manual labour jobs all their lives to do? Actually I know the answer to this, it's work til you literally drop isn't it.

Also, all the rich people who sit down all day at work will have their own pensions and retire early while all the people who do manual jobs will rely on the non existent state pension and their pitiful People’s Pension and retire late. It doesn’t seem quite fair to me.

We've got a regular DPD delivery driver who is retiring next year. I know this because every time he delivers us something he leaves with a cheery '264 days to go!' or whatever the current time is. He is literally counting the hours til he can retire, because it's fucking hard work running up and down the stairs of tenement flats delivering wardrobes and lugging boxes of chains and bundles of tyres into bike shops. Seventy fucking one?

 

[Numbers]

We've got a regular DPD delivery driver who is retiring next year. I know this because every time he delivers us something he leaves with a cheery '264 days to go!' or whatever the current time is. He is literally counting the hours til he can retire, because it's fucking hard work running up and down the stairs of tenement flats delivering wardrobes and lugging boxes of chains and bundles of tyres into bike shops. Seventy fucking one?

How much does this remind you/one of William

 

[weepiper]

How much does this remind you/one of William

Yeah. I know. It's so shit isn't it.

 

[scifisam]

The crucial part of the article:

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The neoliberal consolidator state kills socialised healthcare, free at the point of delivery, to the extent that poorer workers 'lucky' enough to be fit until their 70s must work to pay for the declining health of the nation. Cunts.

And doesn't that argument mean you shouldn't raise the state pension age? It'll mean more people on unemployment and disability benefits, and that costs a lot more to administer than a pension. "More people won't be able to work" doesn't really lead to "we will make more people work" in any logical way.

And yes, I can't imagine my GF, an NHS care worker, doing her job at the age of 70, and it's a little late to retrain - you'd never recoup your training costs.

Stupid people who basically want to punish the poor. That's all it is, really.

 

[Pickman's model]

Think I've six more years to go before I've paid in enough for the full pension. I already have to wait till I'm 67 for that, and I'm already of the view the fucking thing won't exist when I get to that age

 

[muscovyduck]

Struggling to think of anyone in my family who's lived to 71

 

[brogdale]

Yes this is correct, but isn’t really the point is it.

You're right; these cunts subscribe to the useless mouths ethos; we're literally no use to them once we're fucked.

 

[nottsgirl]

I can’t help feeling that someone is getting richer and richer and it’s not me or anyone I know. In fact, it’s at our expense.

 

[mojo pixy]

I've been saying it for years, I'll rob a bank or something when I'm 70 or so and 'retire' to jail where bed, board and healthcare is all free.

Unless something better comes up, that's still the plan

 

[Pickman's model]

You're right; these cunts subscribe to the useless mouths ethos; we're literally no use to them once we're fucked.

I think we all know to whom the useless mouths really belong

 

[Larry O'Hara]

We should be smashing things up like the French did.
Havw spent all morning in a doom spiral imagining ways I might die whilst at work.

Maybe you shouldn’t have joined the Foreign Legion?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

I've been saying it for years, I'll rob a bank or something when I'm 70 or so and 'retire' to jail where bed, board and healthcare is all free.

Unless something better comes up, that's still the plan

Having worked in a prison I can assure you it isnt quite like that

 

[mojo pixy]

Having worked in a prison I can assure you it isnt quite like that

It's marginally better than starving to death in a park.

Plus there's always the chance we might actually get away with it - in which case, south America with a suitcase full of £100 notes.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's marginally better than starving to death in a park.

Plus there's always the chance we might actually get away with it - in which case, south America with a suitcase full of £100 notes.

You'll have to hope they issue £100 notes and that you haven't got away with a shed load of monopoly money

 

[Larry O'Hara]

I can’t help feeling that someone is getting richer and richer and it’s not me or anyone I know. In fact, it’s at our expense.

I think its called capitalism…

 

[bcuster]

Result!

Gruel all round?

Well, all round me anyway.

Cunts.

actually, i should've said unless you retire at 71, not until. you're stuck with the lower benefit payment for life unless you retire at 71

 

[mojo pixy]

You'll have to hope they issue £100 notes and that you haven't got away with a shed load of monopoly money

By the time I'm 70 it'll probably be 1000Eurominbi notes.

Or shiny pebbles, but in that case retirement may well be a non problem.

 

[PTK]

I think its called capitalism…

It's better than feudalism. . .