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I thought it was just judas who was frozen in the deepest pit of hell? Are you saying that Ranbay is as bad as the betrayer of our lord?
 
I thought it was just judas who was frozen in the deepest pit of hell? Are you saying that Ranbay is as bad as the betrayer of our lord?
Judas got a bad press. His whole purpose of existence was to perform that betrayal. In doing so, he effectively created Christianity. Given couldn't live with his role and thus killed himself, one might describe him as the ultimate martyr.
 
I thought it was just judas who was frozen in the deepest pit of hell? Are you saying that Ranbay is as bad as the betrayer of our lord?
looked it up. Dante is very inventive isn't he. Maybe they should update it, RanBay spends eternity never getting the USB stick the right way round for the slot
 
My miners pay for my electicity bills in the house, and they heat the house so i never have the heating on.


Will i go to hell?

How fucking big is your house, guy? I thought the days when ordinary folk could mine coins were long gone.
 
yeah! when i had a go (using the microsoft miner app) it was 200 satoshis in a day so would take forever to get even 1 coin
out of reach
 
How does the cost of running 2 x 400W PCs 24/7 for a month compare to what you get in BTC if you don't mind me asking?

My gas and leccy bill all in is about £80 the miners make me as above £150 ish a month depending on the price of the coin.

cost me about £700 for the cards, i had the PC's already and the main one i use for normal things at the same time as it only uses the GFX cards, so i can browse and fuck about on the PC. the other PC is just sat there doing it's thing and heating the house.

So over all it's making me money each month, and been doing it 9 months now, so cards are almost paid for i would say, so into pure profit soon. And if i hold the coin which i should do, that would be a better investment. (but i will spend it on drugs like a always do lol)
 
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Just running two PC's 400W each, there's enough heat off them to not need the heating on down stairs.
if my sums are right I reckon you cover about 2 transactions per month, using about 10x the electricity our house does.

We've had the heating on for the last two or three days, not all summer, but it's hard to know how many kWh of gas that's used.
 
As long as it's cost nuetral or makes me money i'm happy. :cool:

also the PSU are 400w they don't draw the full 400w just what ever the cards use.
 
Can someone explain, if I do a transaction where is the energy that it takes to do this actually used (& paid for) ? Is it somehow spread out amongst all the bitcoin holders of the world ?
 
Can someone explain, if I do a transaction where is the energy that it takes to do this actually used (& paid for) ? Is it somehow spread out amongst all the bitcoin holders of the world ?
The energy is down to the extreme level of processing redundancy in the proof of work algorithm. You could process bitcoin transactions with 2% of the mining power (maybe less). The redundancy processing power makes it extremely difficult and expensive to subvert, while still allowing it to be open and permissionless.

Reading some of the news about renewable mining, it looks like a solar bitcoin mine is currently very profitable. Especially in california where there is a negative cost of solar electric during peak times as there is excess capacity that needs using.
 
Libertarianism in a nutshell. That's exactly why society has to set rules that prevent the likes of you from destroying important things for a modicum of personal gain.
I don't think this is specific to libertarians. It's a pretty widely distributed way of thinking for humanity. The tragedy of the commons. Political beliefs seem to revolve around how to manage or mitigate this tragedy.
 
Libertarianism in a nutshell. That's exactly why society has to set rules that prevent the likes of you from destroying important things for a modicum of personal gain.

Cool, will google the word later and find out what it means, not nutshell i know what that means.
 
I don't think this is specific to libertarians. It's a pretty widely distributed way of thinking for humanity. The tragedy of the commons. Political beliefs seem to revolve around how to manage or mitigate this tragedy.
Liberals will still destroy the world for personal gain, but at least they have the good grace not to feel happy about it.
Conservatives will crush the world whilst feeling no emotion at all.
 
What is interesting to me, is that the whole thing, while undoubtedly political in intent, has taken on a life of its own. It will develop in directions and have outcomes that neither the originators, nor we, can predict.

The very fact that someone can start a new currency, and we have watched it happen, is a rare thing. Like watching the first time someone swapped a cow for a cowrie shell, or when paper money was first issued (and was deemed worthless).

I'm reminded of some kid brought up catholic that runs off to become a drug-taking lesbian into punk-rock at the first opportunity after escaping convent school.
 
The energy is down to the extreme level of processing redundancy in the proof of work algorithm. You could process bitcoin transactions with 2% of the mining power (maybe less). The redundancy processing power makes it extremely difficult and expensive to subvert, while still allowing it to be open and permissionless.

Reading some of the news about renewable mining, it looks like a solar bitcoin mine is currently very profitable. Especially in california where there is a negative cost of solar electric during peak times as there is excess capacity that needs using.

There was a story about a Russian power-company recently looking at setting up a bitcoin mine to soak up excess power from their nuclear or coal-powered generation. The principal being that it takes weeks to spin up a nuclear or coal plant, but a bitcoin mine can be flicked on or off like that to suck up excess output.

the potential for bitcoin to be a driver toward green-energy and greater energy-efficiency in the search to undercut competitors is there. As is the potential to be ruled by a giant robot that runs on capitalism and cares nothing for your petty human concerns, perhaps seeing planets themselves as mere input factors for further growth, assuming it makes it off this one.
 
I'm reminded of some kid brought up catholic that runs off to become a drug-taking lesbian into punk-rock at the first opportunity after escaping convent school.
I think ideologues are as bad at technology as technologists are at ideology.
 
I think ideologues are as bad at technology as technologists are at ideology.

It would really amuse me if bitcoin became the means by which 'neo-socialist' states in the future chose to pay the citizens wage. Bitcoin, the Comrades Crypto.
 
Here's a use case for the blockchain technology outside of currency:

Blockchain helps French insurers dealing with customers making for the exit

Not sure if you have to log in to read it, so here is the text:

French blockchain technologies provider Stratumn says it has completed an experiment using blockchain technology to streamline inter-insurance information flows on customer mobility.

Organised by the French Federation of Insurers and consultancy Deloitte, the pilot connects 14 French insurance companies using a combination of blockchain technology and advanced cryptography.

The pilot has been designed in the context of French regulations that give consumers enhanced power to switch insurance carriers.

Known as the Hamon Law, it lets consumers switch insurance companies at any time after the first year of coverage. In certain cases insurers must complete this process within 30 days. It is hoped the prototype will help the notification process for both insurers and customers.

According to Stratumn, the pilot represents "the most advanced blockchain network experimentation in the European insurance sector."

"It surely is a major moment in Stratumn's history as we will deploy our proof of process technology on a large-scale experimentation involving 14 insurance companies, but it is especially an important moment in the insurance sector as the launch of this proof of concept marks the first concrete sector-wide blockchain initiative," said Richard Caetano, co-founder and chief executive of Stratumn.

"We strongly believe that this technology, coupled with advanced cryptography techniques, can help streamline inter-enterprise processes to benefit all involved parties."

Stratumn's experiment is the latest in a plethora of blockchain tests entering the insurance sector.

Allianz recently announced a successful test of a prototype based on blockchain technology for a captive insurance programme.

In October insuretech start-up Etherisc also launched a blockchain-enabled flight delay insurance product, which automatically reimburses travelers via smart contracts, in the event of airlines postponing flights.
 
So i just worked out my bills, and it seems that the most expensivve thing i do it light up a 3x 600w bulbs in a grow tents for weed.

can you smoke weed in hell?
 
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