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Oh Christ. Another one in Manchester. There's been quite a few. Sheffield as well.

I don't see many of them in my area, thank fuck. I've seen a couple, and I nearly got attacked by a pit - the fucker jumped up at me and went for my arm and I was wearing a thick jacket, and his leash stopped him biting me, but it was close. Before anyone asks, I didn't provoke him, I was trying to give him and his owner space by moving out of the way but the cunt still tried to bite me, and his owner apparently is known for being a shit owner. Barely takes care of his dog. I know some of you will think I'm a bitch for being frightened of pits and XL bullies, but not much I can do about that.
 
Being scared of these fucking dogs is an extremely sensible reaction. Itā€™s the ā€œoh itā€™s not the dogsā€¦ā€ idiots that are the problem.

There is no need for these breeds to exist. Get rid of them.
Toddler was jumped on by some terrier thing on the swings the other day.
Dog looked playful, but wouldn't stop or return to the owner when called back.
I had words, owner said 'your kid is only scared because you are scared, you're teaching the wrong reaction'.
I was furious. Off the lead on a play area for a start, not behaving, and not following orders...
 
Being scared of these fucking dogs is an extremely sensible reaction. Itā€™s the ā€œoh itā€™s not the dogsā€¦ā€ idiots that are the problem.

There is no need for these breeds to exist. Get rid of them.
I'm glad you said that because so many XL bully owners and pit owners go on about how friendly their dog is, wouldn't hurt a fly etc. and it's like...one, I don't know that and it might be friendly to YOU but that doesn't mean it's friendly with me, and two, so many owners of dogs involved in dog attacks said the same thing up until the bastard dog attacked someone. Some dogs turn, and they don't all give signs either. Just the other day I ended up flicking through a magazine and there was an article about Deborah Dzvene, a little girl whose face was mutilated by the family dog, who the owners thought was a Staffy but it turned out to be a pit mix. (I'm a bit more OK around Staffies as the majority I've met have been genuinely friendly dogs, but still approach with caution.) She was just playing in the garden and bang, the dog went for her and ripped her face open. He'd never been aggressive before. And when this sort of thing happens, you get pit apologists blaming the child and saying 'oh, they must have done something to provoke the dog'. Well, I didn't provoke the pit that went for me, all I did was walk past it and I even moved to the side to let it past. What was I supposed to do?

I used to be terrified of dogs when I was younger because a GSD jumped on me when I was a toddler. My dad went mental at the owner and it took years for me to get over my fear (my ex-stepdad had a lab cross who was a lovely dog, and that helped). Re klang's comment, it's not irrational for a little kid to be scared of an animal that's as big as they are and could do them some serious harm. Even a terrier can seem quite frightening to a toddler. And if you're going to get a dog to intimidate people, don't get angry and abusive when people cross the road or avoid you. You can't have it both ways. It honestly feels like a power play. "I can control this big hard dog. All I have to do is take its muzzle off and tell it to attack you. Don't fuck with me."

There's a homeless guy who sits outside a local supermarket with his pit and he thinks it's funny that I'm scared of it. IDGAF if you think it's friendly, I'm not taking chances. I don't know your dog.
 
If you are a true dog lover you wouldn't have one of them because of the risk to other dogs.
Yeah that's one thing that pisses me off about the pro-XL bully crowd - they go on and on about cruelty to dogs, but they don't give a fuck about other people's dogs. Or cats, or wildlife. Cats and sheep are expendable, and so are small dogs (they fucking hate chihuahuas in particular). Chis can bite but they are not capable of doing the damage an XL bully can, and they don't need several people to stop them. They can't rip off limbs or tear out guts, which is what happened to Ian Price. And it's not just small dogs at risk. On another forum, a woman posted about her lab being attacked by an XL bully and the poor lab had to be put down, and her husband had to drown the XL bully to make it stop. Even Staffies have been attacked.

Also, dog breeding itself is eugenics if we're going down that route. Look at the damage done to GSDs, pugs, basset hounds, bull terriers and loads of other breeds because of ridiculous breed standards. I've seen GSDs whose arses are practically touching the ground because sloping backs are a standard.
 
it's just an extension of hte severely anti social (don't care if you think the dog is "friendly", you don't knwo what goes on its head).

as i have got older, maybe past the age of 30, and I am 43 now, i have began to value manners and pro social behaviour as much as i do about ideas of socialism. i think manners and awareness of others in public is a beautiful thing. walking round with a thing that could literally rip you to shreds if the idea came into its mind is just plain anti social. similar to those who sit in parks all across london with their wifi boom boxes plasting out shit music over waht was once a quiet shared space. yes you can and should look at "socio economic factors" that contribute to such behaviour, but at the same time you can also fine the cunts.
 
Toddler was jumped on by some terrier thing on the swings the other day.
Dog looked playful, but wouldn't stop or return to the owner when called back.
I had words, owner said 'your kid is only scared because you are scared, you're teaching the wrong reaction'.
I was furious. Off the lead on a play area for a start, not behaving, and not following orders...
Grrr
 
it's just an extension of hte severely anti social (don't care if you think the dog is "friendly", you don't knwo what goes on its head).

as i have got older, maybe past the age of 30, and I am 43 now, i have began to value manners and pro social behaviour as much as i do about ideas of socialism. i think manners and awareness of others in public is a beautiful thing. walking round with a thing that could literally rip you to shreds if the idea came into its mind is just plain anti social. similar to those who sit in parks all across london with their wifi boom boxes plasting out shit music over waht was once a quiet shared space. yes you can and should look at "socio economic factors" that contribute to such behaviour, but at the same time you can also fine the cunts.
Every XL bully/pit owner thinks their dog is friendly. Until it isn't. So many of these dogs have turned on their owners. And yet people keep fucking buying them. I'm sure there are XL bullies who genuinely are big softies who will lick you to death, wouldn't hurt a fly and whose most dangerous aspect is their farts, and every other cliche in the book, but these dogs just keep appearing in horror stories over and over.

The idea of owning a pet that could kill me is nightmare fuel. Just to reiterate: I'm a short woman, I'm not very fit, and I'm disabled. If my arsehole cat goes for me, I can fight him off, and I have done. If an XL bully went for me, I'd be dead. If they can kill a grown man like Ian Price, what chance do I have?

Also, don't get offended and shout abuse if people cross the road to avoid your dog. I'm not taking any chances with XL bullies or pits after a pit went for me because I had the nerve to walk past it. If you have a dog that is designed to look hard and intimidate people, don't get angry and abusive and upset when people are intimidated by said dog.
 
I don't know that you can really trust any dog. ( Not necessarily on it's tempremant ). I have seen at least three dogs off a lead and run out in to the road recently. In two instances the owners have said it's never done that before.
you're probably right, but those thigns are literal "rip to shreds machines". fuck trying to fight one of them off when it's clamped on.
 
I don't know that you can really trust any dog. ( Not necessarily on it's tempremant ). I have seen at least three dogs off a lead and run out in to the road recently. In two instances the owners have said it's never done that before.
my normal response is "well you can't say that any more now" but more likely with that if there's a car coming that they'll never do that again :(
 
There was an advert on facebook only the other day to buy XL Bully pups. Fortunately the dude who shared the original ad and contact details of the breeder, removed it when challenged.
 
There was an advert on facebook only the other day to buy XL Bully pups. Fortunately the dude who shared the original ad and contact details of the breeder, removed it when challenged.
Sorry if this a re-post but this post seems to suggest that the some breeding practices are possibly compounding the issues.

 
The 'fashionable dog' breeding pyramid is the same for all the 'nothing yesterday, big today' dog breeds - the pug type things have an astonishingly small gene pool, and very poor genetic and physical health because as soon as they became desirable, the puppy farmers would breed any dog, no matter how unhealthy, and how closely related to it's fuckbuddy, relentlessly.
 
I don't know that you can really trust any dog. ( Not necessarily on it's tempremant ). I have seen at least three dogs off a lead and run out in to the road recently. In two instances the owners have said it's never done that before.

I was bitten by the same dog twice, on two different occasions. Rotweiler. The owner tried to give me the, 'he's never done that before' speech both times, the fucking cheek of her.

She claimed she couldn't have it on a lead because she used a mobility scooter. That made no sense to me but if there is a genuine reason you can't keep your rotweiler on a lead, then you can't own a rotweiler.
 
The 'fashionable dog' breeding pyramid is the same for all the 'nothing yesterday, big today' dog breeds - the pug type things have an astonishingly small gene pool, and very poor genetic and physical health because as soon as they became desirable, the puppy farmers would breed any dog, no matter how unhealthy, and how closely related to it's fuckbuddy, relentlessly.

It's daschunds that are the popular breed now I think. Another one that looks inherently badly designed to the point you wonder what sort of quality of life they have, but as you say the factory-farm breeding is bound to have health consequences even if they're not visible.

Awful for the bitches to be used as puppy factories too.
 
I was bitten by the same dog twice, on two different occasions. Rotweiler. The owner tried to give me the, 'he's never done that before' speech both times, the fucking cheek of her.

She claimed she couldn't have it on a lead because she used a mobility scooter. That made no sense to me but if there is a genuine reason you can't keep your rotweiler on a lead, then you can't own a rotweiler.
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The 'fashionable dog' breeding pyramid is the same for all the 'nothing yesterday, big today' dog breeds - the pug type things have an astonishingly small gene pool, and very poor genetic and physical health because as soon as they became desirable, the puppy farmers would breed any dog, no matter how unhealthy, and how closely related to it's fuckbuddy, relentlessly.
in the bully's case it seems it's not a pool, it's a puddle
 
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