US disregards diplomatic protocol, humiliates India's deputy consul general

[DotCommunist]

Yes they should be paid the minimum wage and anyone who doesn't see that is a scumbag.

and on a wider note I feel strongly that labour tied in with accomadation is open to all sorts of abuses. You want someone5 mins away by phonecall then pay them enough to live that close.

It's one thing to have enough and walk out of a job but another to walk on it when its tied to your home. People will eat a lot of shit before doing that

 

[8ball]

Yes they should be paid the minimum wage and anyone who doesn't see that is a scumbag.

If I'm working as home help for the Uk consulate in India, do I get UK minimum wage or the Indian one?

 

[Thora]

and on a wider note I feel strongly that labour tied in with accomadation is open to all sorts of abuses. You want someone5 mins away by phonecall then pay them enough to live that close.

It's one thing to have enough and walk out of a job but another to walk on it when its tied to your home. People will eat a lot of shit before doing that

Even more so if your visa is attached to the job/home.

 

[redsquirrel]

If I'm working as home help for the Uk consulate in India, do I get UK minimum wage or the Indian one?

Well how about the extremely well paid consulate official pay you a sum that is better than minimum wage in either country. The idea that this is a 'difficult' issue is pathetic.

 

[8ball]

Well how about the extremely well paid consulate official pay you a sum that is better than minimum wage in either country. The idea that this is a 'difficult' issue is pathetic.

The idea that what is a 'difficult' issue?

 

[Santino]

Yes, we're mostly quite aware of what the Consul and the Consul's deputies do. And as such they should be afforded a far higher lever of respect.

A far higher level of respect than whom?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A far higher level of respect than whom?

Than Joe Bloggs mooching down the street. In that way the wheels of international diplomacy keep oiled.

 

[likesfish]

Because joe bloggs walking down the street doesnt have an opposite number in a diffrent country who will be in the shit if a copper starts being an arse
Theirs an arguement that indian consulate staff are not actually that well paid not sure how true that is, a maid offrered $3 an hour in india would I suspect be over joyed as would quite a lot of indians so they probably dont understand what the americans are making a fuss about

 

[redsquirrel]

The idea that what is a 'difficult' issue?

Paying live-in employees a decent wage.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Than Joe Bloggs mooching down the street. In that way the wheels of international diplomacy keep oiled.

You could stack a dozen diplomats together and it still wouldn't equal one Joe Blogg, IMHO.

We'd probably be better off if we held a general cull of politicians and bureaucrats.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You could stack a dozen diplomats together and it still wouldn't equal one Joe Blogg, IMHO.

We'd probably be better off if we held a general cull of politicians and bureaucrats.

politicians yes, diplomats, although political, do some good works. Clearly when they turn in to murderers and their country backs them with claims of immunity the system is a bit wonky though, Libya's cop killer in London, America's double murderer in Pakistan etc.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Here's an example of routine cavity searches: http://boingboing.net/2013/12/20/lawsuit-police-and-doctors-at.html

 

[Casually Red]

In Jamaica, many middle-class families have a home-help. This person lives in and has food provided. They are cook and cleaner and washer and child-minder: it may seem a lot of work but they get a lot of free time for loafing in the sun and, usually, they become just part of the family. They receive very little wages but there is no shortage of people looking to be home helps because they get to live in a bit of city luxury rather than in rural poverty.

When a person is living in and expected to be reasonably available to help the family out, you can't apply normal minimum wage or normal weekly hour rules. And, yes you can find cases where the system is abused and the home-help is treated appallingly but these are the exception. The home-help would just go back to her agency and ask for another family.

I can imagine this same sort of situation applying here. Just because the employer is dark-skinned does not mean she is a primitive slave-driver or an arrogant bitch.

listen missus

im by no means a feminist

but absolutely nothing justifies the sexual degradation and humiliation of even the snootiest Indian diplomat . This was an officially approved sexual assault . End of story .

and that canadian moose fucker who is giggtiung about it, cheering it on, should be told to go fuck himself . Its a disgrace, and so is he . A woman was sexually humiliated because of her race .

its not funny

fuck him and the moose he rode in on

 

[Sirena]

listen missus

im by no means a feminist

but absolutely nothing justifies the sexual degradation and humiliation of even the snootiest Indian diplomat . This was an officially approved sexual assault . End of story .

and that canadian moose fucker who is giggtiung about it, cheering it on, should be told to go fuck himself . Its a disgrace, and so is he . A woman was sexually humiliated because of her race .

its not funny

fuck him and the moose he rode in on

I'm on your side. I was giving an illustration why a home-help is not necessarily a slave. I believe that the Indian diplomat was treated wrongly.

 

[likesfish]

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/December13/KhobragadeStatement.php
Very pissed off with the indians

 

[Dr Jon]

Very interesting, thanks.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/December13/KhobragadeStatement.php
Very pissed off with the indians

Jeepers. The US dept. of justice can put out a press release before any trial has taken place stating as fact allegations? If the CPS wrote that in the UK the trial would have to be shelved.

 

[Combustible]

Jeepers. The US dept. of justice can put out a press release before any trial has taken place stating as fact allegations? If the CPS wrote that in the UK the trial would have to be shelved.

Why? It hardly prejudices a trial that the prosecution believe that the charges are true. And the statement doesn't really discuss the truth of the charges but describes the allegations and the procedures around the time of the arrest.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

and that canadian moose fucker who is giggtiung about it, cheering it on, should be told to go fuck himself . Its a disgrace, and so is he . A woman was sexually humiliated because of her race .

its not funny

fuck him and the moose he rode in on

You're a little bit.......fixated......aren't you?

 

[Casually Red]

You're a little bit.......fixated......aren't you?

no, i was a big bit drunk and shouldnt have been posting on any subject . Abject apologies and happy christmas

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

no, i was a big bit drunk and shouldnt have been posting on any subject . Abject apologies and happy christmas

Thanks very much and same to you. Truth be told, I probably shouldn't have been posting last night, either. Port and anaesthetic don't seem to mix.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I feel like I'm at an AA meeting. "Hi, my name is YW and I'm an alchoholic"!

 

[TomUS]

The prosecution is proceeding. They're going to nail the bitch.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

And no apology will be forthcoming.

 

[teqniq]

India cracks down on US embassy club in diplomatic row

India has told the US to stop allowing non-diplomats to visit a social club at its Delhi embassy, in an escalation of a row over the arrest of an Indian diplomat in New York.

Hundreds of expatriate Americans use the American Community Support Association club, which has a bar, swimming pool, restaurant and beauty parlour within the embassy premises. The club has been in existence for decades.

A government source told Reuters the embassy must cease all commercial activities benefiting non-diplomatic staff on its premises by 16 January.

Meanwhile, the Press Trust of India reported that India had informed the US that embassy cars would not be immune to penalties for traffic violations

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The prosecution is proceeding. They're going to nail the bitch.

Nail the bitch?

 

[TomUS]

Nail the bitch?

She went to elaborate illegal lengths to abuse her maid. But they may not nail her. Latest reports say US prosecutors & the accused's lawyers are trying to work out a deal.

 

[teqniq]

Considering the above in the graun report, I bet they are.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

She went to elaborate illegal lengths to abuse her maid. But they may not nail her. Latest reports say US prosecutors & the accused's lawyers are trying to work out a deal.

Why is she a bitch?

 

[DotCommunist]

because she offended the yoo ess ay and tom is rubbing his hands with glee and swarfega.