Urban v's the Commentariat

[phildwyer]

You know you're on a highbrow thread when you have to google the jokes to get them.

Some things you're better off not knowing.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

By "the story" she means "life" or "the historical situation" or "politics." She doesn't mean it in a journalistic sense.

Yep...I was avoiding some report writing and got hooked on a non-existent barb.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[SpackleFrog]

Have we had this one yet? Apparently the commentariat are winning.

http://laurie-penny.com/why-were-winning-social-justice-warriors-and-the-new-culture-war/

 

[toggle]

Have we had this one yet? Apparently the commentariat are winning.

http://laurie-penny.com/why-were-winning-social-justice-warriors-and-the-new-culture-war/

Not the commentariat, feminists. i think. probably. erm.....


I think there might be some interesting points in there, mainly focused on the idea that you don't see backlash this severe unless you've actually gained ground. However, they have been made many times before by people who know more about feminism than a few buzzwords. That would be people who can actually write them in a way that doesn't a. make my eyes bleed and b. make me believe the worst job in journalism must be editing LPs wibble into something printable.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Not the commentariat, feminists. i think. probably. erm.....


I think there might be some interesting points in there, mainly focused on the idea that you don't see backlash this severe unless you've actually gained ground. However, they have been made many times before by people who know more about feminism than a few buzzwords. That would be people who can actually write them in a way that doesn't a. make my eyes bleed and b. make me believe the worst job in journalism must be editing LPs wibble into something printable.

I guess if we have to talk about it seriously...

There are spikes and falls in interest in feminism all the time. But at certain points feminist movements have changed things before the inevitable reactionary backlash; LP and her ilk change nothing, they just rehash and repackage old ideas.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

That's an article that's been written by several people about GamerGate with a few minor adjustments to make it supposedly more general, as far as I can tell.

 

[toggle]

I guess if we have to talk about it seriously...

There are spikes and falls in interest in feminism all the time. But at certain points feminist movements have changed things before the inevitable reactionary backlash; LP and her ilk change nothing, they just rehash and repackage old ideas.

Absolutely.

That's an article that's been written by several people about GamerGate with a few minor adjustments to make it supposedly more general, as far as I can tell.

that stuff was going about before gamergate.

 

[DaveCinzano]

That's an article that's been written by several people ...

© Studios Penné

 

[rekil]

Have we had this one yet? Apparently the commentariat are winning.

http://laurie-penny.com/why-were-winning-social-justice-warriors-and-the-new-culture-war/

The Weev apologia appeared a couple of weeks after that. It's a peculiar form of feminism that involves boosting the likes of that 'digital activist hero' while deliberately concealing his racism and gamergateesque misogyny.

 

[DotCommunist]

hasn't weev boasted of his many 'doxing'* exploits against women he doesn't like?


*of course we have to have a new word for 'hacking and then leaking someones personal information. Because a) internet and b) the 'chan crowd love the weird ideolect

 

[Bakunin]

the commentariat are winning.

 

[fishfinger]

hasn't weev boasted of his many 'doxing'* exploits against women he doesn't like?


*of course we have to have a new word for 'hacking and then leaking someones personal information. Because a) internet and b) the 'chan crowd love the weird ideolect

The word "dox" is probably older than you. It has been in use since at least the 1980s. Admittedly, it has only become a mainstream term fairly recently.

 

[DotCommunist]

in the context 'doxxing' as in hacking and leaking personal info? or as net geek slang for document?

 

[fishfinger]

in the context 'doxxing' as in hacking and leaking personal info? or as net geek slang for document?

It's the same thing. It just means leaked/copied info, whether it's commercial or personal is immaterial.

 

[Sue]

In Foyles yesterday, seems Laurie's latest has been shortlisted for a prize!

http://greencarnationprize.com

(LGBT writing apparently.)

 

[el-ahrairah]

christ, are there that few LGBT people writing these days?

 

[ViolentPanda]

christ, are there that few LGBT people writing these days?

it's probably more to do with the fact that Penny mentions her sexuality and her politics a lot more often than yer standard LGBT journo.

 

[Theisticle]

Laurie did not make The Independent on Sunday's Rainbow List 2014, I guess that happens when you trash your former employer publicly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/therainbowlist/rainbow-list-2014-1-to-100-9848457.html

 

[DaveCinzano]

Laurie did not make The Independent on Sunday's Rainbow List 2014

Probably just a subbing error

 

[Pickman's model]

It's the same thing. It just means leaked/copied info, whether it's commercial or personal is immaterial.

so i suppose someone who does this doxxing is a doxy

 

[Celyn]

And the practice of doxing is doxology.

 

[fishfinger]

so i suppose someone who does this doxxing is a doxy

I'm sure there are many names for them but usually they would be called a doxxer.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

so i suppose someone who does this doxxing is a doxy

And if you do it for someone else you'd be a proxy doxy.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

And if you weren't very good at that you'd be a poxy, proxy doxy.

 

[fishfinger]

And if you weren't very good at that you'd be a poxy, proxy doxy.

But if you were only pretending to be bad at it, you'd be a foxy, poxy, proxy, doxy.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Dressed as Robin Hood? A poxy, proxy doxy from Loxley.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

But if you were only pretending to be bad at it, you'd be a foxy, poxy, proxy, doxy.

Damn it I was working on a foxy one!

Cheers - Louis Macneice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

If you went about your task with courage? A moxy but poxy, proxy doxy from Loxley.

I'd better stop now and do some work.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[rekil]

Dunno where else to put this ID pol nonsense. Why do I get the feeling that whoever came up with that are alumni of proper posh private schools?

 

[captainmission]

Why do I get the feeling that whoever came up with that are alumni of proper posh private schools?

It's worse than that; they've sort to replicate one - The Emma Goldman Finishing School

Well more a hippy housing co-op, but the name is telling. Also...

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