Urban v's the Commentariat

[el-ahrairah]

oh for fuck's sake. liberal dickbags.

 

[DotCommunist]

*insert wheel of oppression here*

 

[seventh bullet]

Fucking pricks.

 

[Idris2002]

It's worse than that; they've sort to replicate one - The Emma Goldman Finishing School

Well more a hippy housing co-op, but the name is telling. Also...

Emma Goldman is so tired of your bullshit. (not yours, captainmission)

Film at 11.

 

[ViolentPanda]

*insert wheel of oppression here*

I'd like to fucking break them on the Wheel of Oppression, the fatuous cunts!

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'd like to fucking break them on the Wheel of Oppression, the fatuous cunts!

Bet you'd like to hear the lamentations of ‘their’ women too, you patriarchal bastard

 

[Bakunin]

*insert wheel of oppression here*

Kinky.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Bet you'd like to hear the lamentations of ‘their’ women too, you patriarchal bastard

Bit sexist to assume that it'd necessarily be their women lamenting, Dave, you male chauvinist swine!

 

[DaveCinzano]

Bit sexist to assume that it'd necessarily be their women lamenting, Dave, you male chauvinist swine!

Repression is pain

 

[DotCommunist]

Bit sexist to assume that it'd necessarily be their women lamenting, Dave, you male chauvinist swine!

heteronormative too.

 

[weepiper]

Owen spends his LIFE doing politics. What do YOU do?

 

[Idris2002]

What do YOU do?

As little as possible, generally.

 

[krink]

I'd like to fucking break them on the Wheel of Oppression, the fatuous cunts!

spot on and cheers VP, that proper cheered me up!

 

[killer b]

That doesn't seem an unreasonable response to the dig quoted - am I missing something?

 

[krink]

That doesn't seem an unreasonable response to the dig quoted - am I missing something?

.not at me

 

[weepiper]

That doesn't seem an unreasonable response to the dig quoted - am I missing something?

He just says it so much it's become a meme. Also if for whatever reason your health, caring responsibilities or financial situation prevents you from doing activism up and down the country it doesn't mean he's better than you.

 

[killer b]

But he's responding to a snipe from a labour councillor saying he just writes about politics - I don't see any implication that he's better than anyone in that?

 

[butchersapron]

But he's responding to a snipe from a labour councillor saying he just writes about politics - I don't see any implication that he's better than anyone in that?

It'[s the 2nd time owen jones has used this i'm doing politics full time, wtf are you doing? on people who question him on twitter though. He shouldn't be allowed get away with line-drawing between specialists and activists like him and norms. That's a really damaging thing to accept.

 

[killer b]

But he hasn't said 'wtf are you doing'. There's no line being drawn - except by the labour councillor.

 

[weepiper]

But he hasn't said 'wtf are you doing'. There's no line being drawn - except by the labour councillor.

If you read the whole thread he comes across as very arrogant.

 

[butchersapron]

But he hasn't said 'wtf are you doing'. There's no line being drawn - except by the labour councillor.

Give us a bit and i'll dig out the other example, it is relevant because this appears to be the same message with a more deserving target so possibly let slip by. The message seems clear to me. I'm the proper politician - don't question me. It's something i'm sure most of us have seen replicated on smaller or larger scales throughout their collective political activity, which is why i think people recognise it was being so damaging. I've certainly seen it over and over, politicos attempting to dominante because, well i'm the politico here - you're just a housewife. And next week only the politicos turn up.

 

[killer b]

Surely it's just Jones responding to someone else saying I'm a proper politician, don't question me.

 

[butchersapron]

Surely it's just Jones responding to someone else saying I'm a proper politician, don't question me.

If he is then he's responding - i'm a proper politician too. So still drawing and re-inforcing that line. And it really has to be measured alongside the last time he used almost that exact same line to try and cut norms out of debate/conclusions. I will find it.

 

[krink]

just read that conversation, is OJ still a member of Labour? he only says he's not in scottish labour.

 

[DaveCinzano]

is OJ still a member of Labour?

If the glove fits

 

[butchersapron]

That doesn't seem an unreasonable response to the dig quoted - am I missing something?

Hang on - VP's post wasn't even addressed to the OJ thing, it was to that Emma Goldman/solidarity bollocks.

 

[killer b]

I know, the quote seemed to go missing somewhere. I was replying to weeps'

 

[rekil]

If he is then he's responding - i'm a proper politician too. So still drawing and re-inforcing that line. And it really has to be measured alongside the last time he used almost that exact same line to try and cut norms out of debate/conclusions. I will find it.

Here's one. It's every day now rather than every other day. He's much much nicer if you're a face, regardless of how shit your politics are.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's one. It's every day now rather than every other day. He's much much nicer if you're a face, regardless of how shit your politics are.

Ta, not sure that was even the one i was thinking of - so if not, that's three times. Note him blocking one of our comrades on that little exchange.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Owen Jones' accelerationism.

Next he will be going up and down the country twice a day.

Then #Omnipresence2015