Urban v's the Commentariat

[J Ed]

*retweeted by Ellie*

 

[J Ed]

Fuck your data, analysis and research, we really, really reckon something

 

[fogbat]

I have to agree with Ellie. Obviously I'm totally not racist, but what about other people less stable, less educated, less middle-class than me? Builders or blacks for example.

 

[The39thStep]

@PennyRed: I've dyed my hair back to its natural colour temporarily. Partly because of street harassment.

Nobody knows the trouble I've seen
Nobody knows but Jesus

 

[PoorButNotAChav]

Do you want to read an article about Renee Zellweger's face? You're in luck!

The Guardian has at least four:

Nothing's wrong with Renee Zellweger's face. There's something wrong with us (by Jennifer Gerson Uffalussy)

http://www.donotlink.com/c6ui

Renée Zellweger's face is her brand – a new look will change her career beyond recognition (by Steve Rose)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74v

Renée Zellweger's new look due to 'happy, healthy lifestyle', not surgery (by Xan Brooks)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74w

It’s not unreasonable to ask where the real Renée Zellweger has gone (by Viv Groskop)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74x

The Independent has at least five:

Renee Zellweger looks unrecognisable in these photos (by Christopher Hooton)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74y

The facepalm that was coverage of Renee Zellweger's face (by Dina Rickman)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74z

Renee Zellweger's real crime has been to age in an industry that prizes women's youth over humanity (by Amanda Hess)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74f

The reactions to Renee Zellweger's face say more about us than about her (by Emma Gannon)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74g

Renee Zellweger on plastic surgery: 'I'm living a fulfilling life and I'm thrilled that perhaps it shows' (by Ella Alexander)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74h

The Telegraph has at least six:

Renee Zellweger: what has happened to her face? (by Anita Singh)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74r

Renee Zellweger: my face looks different because I'm at peace (by Anita Singh)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74q

Renee Zellweger’s face: why are we so obsessed? (by Olivia Goldhill)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74p

Are men to blame for the plastic surgery obsession? (by Jake Wallis Simons)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74n

Celebrities like Renee Zellweger face huge pressure to have plastic surgery (by Myles Burke)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74m

Renée Zellweger: why does her face look so different? (by Victoria Lambert)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74k

Years ago if you wanted to read that sort of news and comment you'd have to buy Heat magazine. However, now you have been saved that embarrassment by fourteen people writing for Britain's "quality" newspapers and their editors who presumably said "Can you bash out a thousand words about Renee Zellweger's face in an hour?" and were not told to fuck off.

 

[Belushi]

Renee Zellweger has a face now!

 

[Rural]

Nobody knows the trouble I've seen
Nobody knows but Jesus

Dying your hair back is a little bit communism

 

[Rural]

Do you want to read an article about Renee Zellweger's face? You're in luck!

The Guardian has at least four:

Nothing's wrong with Renee Zellweger's face. There's something wrong with us (by Jennifer Gerson Uffalussy)

http://www.donotlink.com/c6ui

Renée Zellweger's face is her brand – a new look will change her career beyond recognition (by Steve Rose)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74v

Renée Zellweger's new look due to 'happy, healthy lifestyle', not surgery (by Xan Brooks)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74w

It’s not unreasonable to ask where the real Renée Zellweger has gone (by Viv Groskop)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74x

The Independent has at least five:

Renee Zellweger looks unrecognisable in these photos (by Christopher Hooton)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74y

The facepalm that was coverage of Renee Zellweger's face (by Dina Rickman)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74z

Renee Zellweger's real crime has been to age in an industry that prizes women's youth over humanity (by Amanda Hess)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74f

The reactions to Renee Zellweger's face say more about us than about her (by Emma Gannon)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74g

Renee Zellweger on plastic surgery: 'I'm living a fulfilling life and I'm thrilled that perhaps it shows' (by Ella Alexander)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74h

The Telegraph has at least six:

Renee Zellweger: what has happened to her face? (by Anita Singh)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74r

Renee Zellweger: my face looks different because I'm at peace (by Anita Singh)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74q

Renee Zellweger’s face: why are we so obsessed? (by Olivia Goldhill)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74p

Are men to blame for the plastic surgery obsession? (by Jake Wallis Simons)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74n

Celebrities like Renee Zellweger face huge pressure to have plastic surgery (by Myles Burke)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74m

Renée Zellweger: why does her face look so different? (by Victoria Lambert)

http://www.donotlink.com/c74k

Years ago if you wanted to read that sort of news and comment you'd have to buy Heat magazine. However, now you have been saved that embarrassment by fourteen people writing for Britain's "quality" newspapers and their editors who presumably said "Can you bash out a thousand words about Renee Zellweger's face in an hour?" and were not told to fuck off.

Renee Zellweger has a face now!

News to me

 

[killer b]

Nobody knows the trouble I've seen
Nobody knows but Jesus

I think complaining about street harassment is ok, isn't it? Seems an odd thing to be picking her up on.

 

[PoorButNotAChav]

News to me

It's news to me too. I was reading about how the Department for Work and Pensions is classifying thousands of people with degenerative conditions as being fit to work in the future and therefore they will receive less money, are threatened with sanctions if they fail to attend Work-Related Activity Group sessions and may lose their benefits after a year.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...te-no-possibility-of-improvement-9811910.html

However, this obviously isn't as important as Renee Zellweger's face which is why editors of Britain's national newspapers throw three hundred pounds a time at writers who are more interested in Renee Zellweger's face than the welfare of thousands of people suffering from Multiple Sclerosis, Spinal Muscular Atrophy, Parkinson’s Disease, Cystic Fibrosis and Rheumatoid Arthritis.

 

[killer b]

You know how newspapers work don't you? Especially now no-one buys them?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Mmm. merricky.

But without the eco-touchy-feely bits.

 

[ViolentPanda]

For all we know that dead beardie the HPG blokes are standing over might have seen one of taffboys memes and dropped dead.

He's not dead. he's just collapsed in exhausted laughter after reading Laurie Penney's latest whine about how oppressed she is.

 

[ViolentPanda]

We shall fight on the Tumblr. We shall fight on the Facebook groups. We shall fight in the like and in the tweets. We shall fight in the blogs. We shall never surrender.

You forgot "unless they attack us with physical violence, in which case we'll give up without so much as a punch thrown, let alone a grenade"

 

[Idris2002]

We shall monetize our hotness, whatever the cost may be.

 

[Brainaddict]

I barely knew where to post this horror, but here is the Guardian Commentariat Convergence to beat them all: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/russell-brand-revolution-book-panel-verdict
And pretty much every word is entirely fatuous (Emma Howard comes out best), commenting on something utterly fatuous. The whole thing reads like a satire of the guardian.

 

[co-op]

You know how newspapers work don't you? Especially now no-one buys them?

Fair enough but at least part of the reason so many people have stopped buying them is because they are so full of trivial shite. I can't believe how rubbish they are when I pick up a broadsheet now.

 

[The39thStep]

I think complaining about street harassment is ok, isn't it? Seems an odd thing to be picking her up on.

Be interested to know what form this harassment takes tbh

 

[killer b]

I've no doubt it takes a similar form to the street harassment that's depressingly familiar to the vast majority of young women. Seriously, why this?

 

[Idris2002]

Aye Step, why this?

 

[The39thStep]

Both my daughters ( and my partners daughters) experience of street harassment wouldn't register someone commenting on the colour of their hair tbh and certainly wouldn't a) make them change the colour or b) tweet about it.

 

[The39thStep]

Anyway street harassment is only the partial reason

 

[killer b]

ok. well, whatever the details, I think it's at least a tactical mistake for a middle aged man to be criticising a young woman's complaints about street harassment.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

ok. well, whatever the details, I think it's at least a tactical mistake for a middle aged man to be criticising a young woman's complaints about street harassment.

It might be an even bigger tactical mistake to dismiss a criticism based on the identity of the critic, rather than the content/the detail of their criticism.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[The39thStep]

ok. well, whatever the details, I think it's at least a tactical mistake for a middle aged man to be criticising a young woman's complaints about street harassment.

Middle aged able bodied heterosexual tall white male if you don't mind.check that out for privilege .

 

[killer b]

Middle aged able bodied heterosexual tall white male if you don't mind.check that out for privilege .

of course you are. you're posting in the urban75 politics forum.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Middle aged able bodied heterosexual tall white male if you don't mind.check that out for privilege .

Next you'll be telling us you're employed and securely housed...you bastard!

In privelegded solidarity - Louis MacNeice

 

[killer b]

It might be an even bigger tactical mistake to dismiss a criticism based on the identity of the critic, rather than the content/the detail of their criticism.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

This is a fair point. In this case I think its a mistake though.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

This is a fair point. In this case I think its a mistake though.

Yep kb I was making a general point rather defending Steps particular contribution...which I'm still undecided about (priveledged fence sitter that I am).

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[The39thStep]

This is a fair point. In this case I think its a mistake though.

Ok I will get the girls to have a pop at her on twitter if that's alright with you