It's the liberal American faith in Free Speech. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and all that.
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It's the liberal American faith in Free Speech. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and all that.
Idris2002
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And the silly complacent belief that once having been granted free speech, the far right will simply condemn themselves out of their own mouths, and nothing more need be done.
Btw has anyone else been following the implosion of the NY "alt.lit" scene?
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/doesnt-have-to-be-rape-to-suck.html
http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/doesnt-have-to-be-rape-to-suck.html
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Yeah, saw that one on facebook. May hell mend them.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Style over substance, in other words. Shouting loud while saying little.
Explain's Penny Dreadful's whole career trajectory really.
I can't find a single redeeming feature in any of them. The women all write a load of self-regarding twaddle, and the men all write a lot of self-regarding twaddle while clumsily trying to sleep with the women. Then they all hate each other. Then the women all bitch about the men on the internet. The men offer groveling apologies, which are contemptuously rejected. The police are called in. Street-fighting erupts in Williamsburg.
Apart from the last bit, unfortunately. But seriously, what kind of a literary scene is this? I frankly despair of the youth.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
some good points in the article about positive consent- even if the people do seem to be examples of the last days of rome, its a serious subject and the articles points on positive affirmation are worth thinking on
andysays
Love and solidarity
I'm familiar with that saying, but I think in this case a couple of bottles of extra strength domestos would be more appropriate
andysays
Love and solidarity
Given that he's already in a car, they'd struggle to make the claim he was just trying to hail a cab.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
In fact, at risk of starting a competition:
worst
nazi
ever
worst
nazi
ever
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he'd ave some stiff competition there. Who was that cunt who invented the quenelle
andysays
Love and solidarity
TBF (
at self for using that expression here) he is limited by the close proximity of the roof of the carI reckon that could have been specifically invented for use in the back of a car. Shame it's now spread more widely, obvs...
I don't know man, it all seems ridiculous to me.
Last time I looked, they'd collectively agreed on a form--an actual, fill-in-the-blanks form--that they're going to print out, carry round with them, and get their partner to fill out every time they have sex.
Then some of them said: "Ah, but what if someone gives their consent at first, and then changes their mind? Couldn't the form be used against them in court?"
Cue much consternation and a hubbub of earnest discussion. I look forward to seeing what they'll come up with next.
rekil
to menny cranks
"Disgracefully wayward thumb action darling. Tuck. It. In."TBF (
andysays
Love and solidarity
Liked even though I have no idea who the fuck that is
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its incredible but a lot of people- scions of privilege usually- actually do think their hard on is someone elses problem also.
forms is getting a bit wtf but then, how did they get to that point?
theyre kids aren't they? I remember an angry teen feminist I know advocating such a procedure, before she realised it was totally ridiculous...
You don't want to know. Or maybe you do? If so, just Google "Stephen Tully Dierks" and take it from there.
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Some of them are in their late 20s. I suppose 29 is the new 9 or something.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Ever taught undergrads in your long career as an international bohemian, phil?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you'd have to have a list of all permutations, positions and acts with tick boxes next to them. Not to mention what a passion killer.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
i can't believe it's really so complicated not to rape someone. is it really that difficult?
Did they have much of a reason to think it would hit them in the face hard though? As the Trouble at the Koolaid Point article makes clear, numerous people and numerous 'serious' publications/organisations have supported weev or overlooked & downplayed his actions many times over many years and got away with it, and have done the same with other edgy hacker types. I remember leftys/liberals in other places fawning over LulzSec as they released peoples credit card details, or Anonymous (even before their supposed progressive turn with the Scientology stuff), ignoring or waving away what came with the cat pictures ('controversial group', 'infamous trolls', asshole of the internet lololol).
in this instance it may have hit them, though probably not that hard but there's a reason they felt safe to be so blase about his politics and his behaviour and it definitely wasn't that they were ignorant of it.
You'd hope not, but
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
apparently people need forms now.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Who are the they involved here though? That article mentions tech - now, i don't who or what tech is. I do know that it looked hot for a while for LP and others to jump on. That's my entire interest here. Nailing them. beyond that i know nothing. I don't know about this world of not actually doing anything at all.
It isn't, of course. TBH the whole idea comes from a fairly dodgy mindset.
I guess these things are dreamed up by people who don't have a great deal of experience of sex tbh. The total unworkability (and undesirability) of them in practice is perhaps not so obvious as a result.
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