Urban v's the Commentariat

[The39thStep]

What about loft parties?

 

[andysays]

Does it have to be solely basements? Or are ground floor/upwards hovels acceptable?

Check your "living above ground level" privilege

 

[Pickman's model]

I was looking for a title for my forthcoming pulp pastiche post-detective novel, cheers

i was following a trail of postcards. at the end of it i knew i'd find the killer i'd been looking for for so long. ...

 

[Pickman's model]

And you score bonus points for making the trains run on time.

simple: just alter the timetable to when they actually run

 

[tufty79]

i was following a trail of postcards. at the end of it i knew i'd find the killer i'd been looking for for so long. ...

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/urban-postcard-exchange-summer-2014.324400/

 

[equationgirl]

The New Statesman has really made me quite cross. While the article itself is broadly correct factually, my main bones of contention are it seems based around a phone interview with one woman at BP as well as a recent report 'supported by' BP but is, in fact, not fucking news as it waxes lyrical about a topic well known to people in engineering and education (how to get more women into engineering) for the past 20 or so years.

http://www.newstatesman.com/sci-tec...iscouraging-women-choosing-engineering-career

It doesn't even mention that in order to encourage more women into engineering it's essential to start encouraging girls at primary school age that science and engineering are great career choices. The engineering profession is quite starved of entrants at this point anyway so just encouraging women into the profession won't address the future needs of the industry, engineers of all genders are needed.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

What about loft parties?

Stormy applause for your weev bating on twitter.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Does it have to be solely basements?

In the free market of ideas, every buyer needs a cellar.

 

[Idris2002]

The New Statesman has really made me quite cross. While the article itself is broadly correct factually, my main bones of contention are it seems based around a phone interview with one woman at BP as well as a recent report 'supported by' BP but is, in fact, not fucking news as it waxes lyrical about a topic well known to people in engineering and education (how to get more women into engineering) for the past 20 or so years.

http://www.newstatesman.com/sci-tec...iscouraging-women-choosing-engineering-career

It doesn't even mention that in order to encourage more women into engineering it's essential to start encouraging girls at primary school age that science and engineering are great career choices. The engineering profession is quite starved of entrants at this point anyway so just encouraging women into the profession won't address the future needs of the industry, engineers of all genders are needed.

Have you seen this site?

http://www.engineergirl.org/

 

[DaveCinzano]

you have to get up early to win in the nazi pun game

Last night I spent literally minutes trying to construct a volley based around Jim Bowen telling Ernst Röhm “You don't get anything for two in a bed”, but nothing quite worked. Soz.

 

[Bakunin]

Have you seen this site?

http://www.engineergirl.org/

Shame that I don't find Leena Gade listed there:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/apr/28/leena-gade-female-motorsport-engineer

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm pretty sure that apart from enabling academics around the world to share their ‘wanted’ lists of 60s SF show episodes on VHS and facilitating a robust, decentralised command-and-control system for absolute nuclear holocaust, this is exactly what the internet was invented for - a pointless online spat between a nonce-associated ex-Tory MP and a failed reality TV businessperson:




(etc)

 

[Rural]

Probably worth mentioning that he will see who has visited his profile (unless you have a paid-for OKC profile and are browsing invisibly), and given his creepy predilections, that might not be something everyone would want to risk.

Now u tell us

 

[The Pale King]

I'm pretty sure that apart from enabling academics around the world to share their ‘wanted’ lists of 60s SF show episodes on VHS and facilitating a robust, decentralised command-and-control system for absolute nuclear holocaust, this is exactly what the internet was invented for - a pointless online spat between a nonce-associated ex-Tory MP and a failed reality TV businessperson:




(etc)

They deserve one another.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Now u tell us

Has he been A/S/Ling you?

 

[Rural]

Has he been A/S/Ling you?

Idk what that means :/


Oh god sorry i am slow today!

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Going back to the Weev issue it's worth reading this blog post Trouble at the Koolaid Point: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point

 

[Idris2002]

Going back to the Weev issue it's worth reading this blog post Trouble at the Koolaid Point: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point

Damn, you beat me to it. I don't think "evil" is too strong a word for the kind of things documented in that post.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Going back to the Weev issue it's worth reading this blog post Trouble at the Koolaid Point: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point

What a depressing picture that paints.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Going back to Butcher's original reaction to watching the Weev interview video: WTF?! You wouldn't even sit next to this guy on a bus. Why did they take him seriously?

But it's true! Even just a casual investigation into his history would reveal that this guy is seriously dangerous and if you associate with him it's going to blow back and hit you in the face hard.

Maybe it's because in his court case he had the backing of respected organisations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

 

[co-op]

Going back to the Weev issue it's worth reading this blog post Trouble at the Koolaid Point: http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point

Fuck me, this should be read widely. Think I'm a bit of a naive about trolling, it still just means "fucking about on a BB" to me. What an evil little wanker.

And Laurie Penny bought into this guy? Fucking amazing.

 

[Idris2002]

And Laurie Penny bought into this guy? .

Could anyone be that stupid and/or ignorant? Or should we seek some other explanation?

 

[rekil]

I lolled at this take on LP, from someone who usually knows better.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Or that meisterwerk challenging the extradition of Gary McKinnon, Keep The Aspie Disaster From Flying.

has anyone done 'Down and Out in Paris Hilton' yet?

 

[butchersapron]

Could anyone be that stupid and/or ignorant? Or should we seek some other explanation?

It's trying to keep up the appearance of being well up on things you know sweet fanny adams about (and this generally means shiny new things - see various academic fields for excellent examples) and making yourself a target in the process in of trying to insert yourself into that newness and hot issue-ness.

On a side note, i remember many of us being laughed at here and elsewhere for pointing out the libertarian (in the bad sense) and right wing nature of much of anon and related activity and motivations of participants - that it reflected the use of specialised power/knowledge without any sense of wider collective responsibility. Without anything beyond the activity itself and the pleasure it brings to the actors involved. A profoundly anti-social, anti-working class position. Now it turns out half of them are state grasses and the other half neo-nazis.

 

[Idris2002]

It's trying to keep up the appearance of being well up on things you know sweet fanny adams about (and this generally means shiny new things - see various academic fields for excellent examples) and making yourself a target in the process in of trying to insert yourself into that newness and hot issue-ness.

On a side note, i remember many of us being laughed at here and elsewhere for pointing out the libertarian (in the bad sense) and right wing nature of much of anon and related activity and motivations of participants - that it reflected the use of specialised power/knowledge without any sense of wider collective responsibility. Without anything beyond the activity itself and the pleasure it brings to the actors involved. A profoundly anti-social, anti-working class position. Now it turns out half of them are state grasses and the other half neo-nazis.

"The man who was thursday."

 

[killer b]

I'm struggling to get my head round this - this guy isn't just a bit of a nasty prick, he's the very worst of the exact kind of misogynist attack dog that targets the likes of Penny - and is both reknowned for it and proud of it. Oh yeah, plus all the white power stuff. All there with a few minutes googling. Insane.

Great, if nauseating, blog post btw.

 

[newbie]

powerful stuff, and I wish I hadn't read it with this slightly nauseous feeling that this thread and its predecessor wouldn't look too great if cherrypicked for quotes in the light of what she's said.

I now believe the most dangerous time for a woman with online visibility is the point at which others are seen to be listening, “following”, “liking”, “favoriting”, retweeting. In other words, the point at which her readers have (in the troll’s mind) “drunk the Koolaid”. Apparently, that just can’t be allowed.

there is some sort of fine line between justifiable criticism and what Kathy is discussing, and it ill behoves a discussion group as robust as this one, and as male dominated as this one, to get too sanctimonious.

 

[killer b]

ok. we'll leave the sanctimony to you.

 

[Rural]

Going back to Butcher's original reaction to watching the Weev interview video: WTF?! You wouldn't even sit next to this guy on a bus. Why did they take him seriously?

But it's true! Even just a casual investigation into his history would reveal that this guy is seriously dangerous and if you associate with him it's going to blow back and hit you in the face hard.

Maybe it's because in his court case he had the backing of respected organisations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

He is taken seriously by lp & her ilk cos he is their class. He's seen as a maverick, many comments about him being "funny", witty, charismatic. Politics r less impt than being a personality. Not that he seems to have one that I'd find appealing, but I can completely see why he appeals to that lot.